Are you a Trump supporter?

[Edwardo Piet]

Yes I do and that's still the case regardless of if you honestly believe me so to think otherwise is just yourself wasting your own time with pointless speculation.

Which is fine by me, I don't care if a Trumptard wastes their time.

Of course I'm wasting my time.  This is all just a hobby.  And I'm not arguing with anyone that I'm aware of.  Just a friendly discussion.  Some of you lot just get worked up rather easily.

That is of course not the sense in which I meant it. I meant it as in you are wasting even your hobby-time by speculating about the fact you think I'm dishonest... because I'm as honest as it gets.

Were you knowingly equivocating and being deceptive or not then (did you know I didn't mean it that way or are you just too stupid to tell the difference and understand the context?) Are you perhaps dishonest, that is what I wonder. Of course, I'm not wasting much time on that. And CL already gave you an easy way out on my other thread when you asked if I considered a relationship with someone in prison... CL took it as you not meaning it in a bad way which gave you an easy escape hatch. Maybe you really didn't. But you sure as hell seem more slippery and deceptive than I do, you give that impression much more clearly, even if we're both honest... I'm more obviously honest.

It's far more easy for me to believe you're just too stupid to understand, however, rather than an outright liar, now that I know you're a trumptard.

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Oh, it's not calling fucking idiots fucking idiots.  It's when someone you consider 'friendly' lets slip a bit of honesty.  But maybe that actually supports what you say about 'truly believing', because the couple times I've seen it happened, you took it differently than just about everything else.  And the common thread seemed to be others perception of you not matching either your perception of yourself, or maybe your perception of their perception of you.

It's all very interesting.

IMO that was just their own simplistic way of understanding things. Honestly failing to keep promises and being dishonest are two very different things. As a person I am consistently inconsistent, and extremely unreliable. I regularly make appointments and believe I will make them and then change my mind and email the person to say I can't make it. That happens almost 50% of the time. And yet each time I am convinced I can definitely make it that time. Think of it as like procrastination when you tell yourself in your own head "X needs to be done and I AM DOING it today. I AM DOING it this time. I am not putting it off to tomorrow." even though it's like the 500th time you've said that to yourself, you still fall for it, and then time passes and later in the day you tell yourself "Actually fuck it I'll do it tomorrow after all." Some people would describe that as 'lying to yourself' but IMO there's a very real sense in which it's impossible to lie to yourself. Self-deception is more like self-trickery than self-lying. You honestly believe the stories you tell yourself, so you're not lying.

So anyways... I don't have a stable sense of self that's what it's about. Now of course, I have one long term personality like everyone else does.... I must do. But my sense of it... is very different.

Perhaps some of it is autism but perhaps some of it is trauma from an abusive father or side effects of being on lots of different long term meds and mood stabilizers and anti-depressants and all sorts (I'm not taking anything anymore). Who knows. Maybe it's just me and nothing to do with any of that. But I certainly used to have more of a stable sense of self, and I certainly used to contemplate the future and the past a lot more than I do now, and identify with that past-me or future-me. Now as soon as time passes I feel like a different person. And I feel like I am spectating my thoughts. And neurologically speaking my bizarre viewpoint is actually more accurate! Because our sense of control really is an illusion. I just don't even experience the illusion anymore (I think sense of self and sense of the illusion of free will are highly connected).

Personally I think losing my sense of ultimate moral responsibility and contra-causal free will and losing my sense of self are basically the same thing. And it's probably all a result of doing philosophy and then spending enough time alone to get the ideas idiots force upon me out of my head. To understand it conceptually was very easy (for me) but then it was just a matter of living alone to get the habit out of seeing myself as a self... out of my mind. It's very hard to shake off your sense of self if other people still see you that way or talk like they see themselves that way.

But now I don't think I will ever get that sense back and I am glad of it because it is accurate, even if it isn't healthy (perhaps it's healthy to have that illusion and that's why most people have it... but I still don't want it if it's all bullshit and it certainly makes me a great deal HAPPIER to live this way. I'm the happiest person I know most of the time, and when I'm not I barely suffer. I don't hold onto any bad feelings. It's great.).

But it's unhealthy perhaps because it makes it hard for me to make long term plans and stuff. Or even short term plans. Lol.

I don't think you really find it really interesting I think you're just failing at being manipulative and trying to be an asshole seen as you actually believe that Trump is a reasonable person, you must just be a fucking idiot. It's funny you pretend like it's objective but you're brainwashed if you don't think he's a criminally perverted fraud that isn't fit to work in Wall Mart let alone be in the whitehouse.

But it's possible you genuinely find it interesting so I thought I'd explain it a bit more anyways.

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And the common thread seemed to be others perception of you not matching either your perception of yourself, or maybe your perception of their perception of you.

This part can probably be explained by my autism. I do compassion but I don't do cognitive empathy. Although if anything I'm actually better at telling what other people feel than telling what I feel (although maybe it's because I don't feel much)... but I'm still shit. From my point of view either it's my point of view or it's a fucking stupid point of view. If people understood something they'd agree with me. And then sometimes I realize I was the one who misunderstood, but only after the fact, and only because they weren't explaining it properly or I didn't have enough prior knowledge to understand the meanings yet although I was more than capable if I did have the prior knowledge and I am as soon as I do.