Muslims , please answer this .

[Mystic]

"I asked Imam Baqir (as) about the Baatin (inner or secret meaning) of this verse,

"And he caused rain to descend on you from sky, to clean you with it and to remove from you the uncleanness of Satan, to strengthen your hearts, and to establish your feet firmly." [8:11]


 


Imam (as) said, "The sky in the Baatin (inner or secret meaning) is the Prophet (saww), and the rain is Ali (as) and Allah made Imam Ali (as) from the Prophet (saww) and that is the saying of Allah, "(descended) the rain to clean you with it" and that is Ali (as), Allah purifies the hearts of those who Love Him. And regarding the saying of Allah, "And to remove from you the uncleanness of Satan", The one who loves Ali (as), the uncleanness is removed from him and his heart is strengthened. And the saying of Allah, "And to strengthen your hearts and establish your feet firmly", verily that is Ali (as), the one who loves Ali (as), Allah strengthens his heart through Ali (as) and establishes him upon His Wilayat."


 

[Source: Tafseer al-Ayyashi, Vol. 2, Pg. 50, Hadees. 25 & Tafseer-e-Furat, Pg. 153, Hadees. 190]


Before Atlas comes attacking me, I will prove this through context of Quran.

الر ۚ تِلْكَ آيَاتُ الْكِتَابِ وَقُرْآنٍ مُبِينٍ {1}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:1] Alif Lam Ra. These are the verses of the Book and (of) a Quran that makes (things) clear.[/size][/size]
رُبَمَا يَوَدُّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا لَوْ كَانُوا مُسْلِمِينَ {2}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:2] Often will those who disbelieve wish that they had been Muslims.[/size][/size]
ذَرْهُمْ يَأْكُلُوا وَيَتَمَتَّعُوا وَيُلْهِهِمُ الْأَمَلُ ۖ فَسَوْفَ يَعْلَمُونَ {3}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:3] Leave them that they may eat and enjoy themselves and (that) hope may beguile them, for they will soon know.[/size][/size]
وَمَا أَهْلَكْنَا مِنْ قَرْيَةٍ إِلَّا وَلَهَا كِتَابٌ مَعْلُومٌ {4}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:4] And never did We destroy a town but it had a term made known.[/size][/size]
مَا تَسْبِقُ مِنْ أُمَّةٍ أَجَلَهَا وَمَا يَسْتَأْخِرُونَ {5}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:5] No people can hasten on their doom nor can they postpone (it).[/size][/size]
وَقَالُوا يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِي نُزِّلَ عَلَيْهِ الذِّكْرُ إِنَّكَ لَمَجْنُونٌ {6}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:6] And they say: O you to whom the Reminder has been revealed! you are most surely insane:[/size][/size]
لَوْ مَا تَأْتِينَا بِالْمَلَائِكَةِ إِنْ كُنْتَ مِنَ الصَّادِقِينَ {7}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:7] Why do you not bring to us the angels if you are of the truthful ones?[/size][/size]
مَا نُنَزِّلُ الْمَلَائِكَةَ إِلَّا بِالْحَقِّ وَمَا كَانُوا إِذًا مُنْظَرِينَ {8}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:8] We do not send the angels but with truth, and then they would not be respited.[/size][/size]
إِنَّا نَحْنُ نَزَّلْنَا الذِّكْرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُ لَحَافِظُونَ {9}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:9] Surely We have revealed the Reminder and We will most surely be its guardian.[/size][/size]
وَلَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ قَبْلِكَ فِي شِيَعِ الْأَوَّلِينَ {10}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:10] And certainly We sent (messengers) before you among the nations of yore.[/size][/size]
وَمَا يَأْتِيهِمْ مِنْ رَسُولٍ إِلَّا كَانُوا بِهِ يَسْتَهْزِئُونَ {11}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:11] And there never came a messenger to them but they mocked him.[/size][/size]
كَذَٰلِكَ نَسْلُكُهُ فِي قُلُوبِ الْمُجْرِمِينَ {12}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:12] Thus do We make it to enter into the hearts of the guilty;[/size][/size]
لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِهِ ۖ وَقَدْ خَلَتْ سُنَّةُ الْأَوَّلِينَ {13}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:13] They do not believe in it, and indeed the example of the former people has already passed.[/size][/size]
وَلَوْ فَتَحْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ بَابًا مِنَ السَّمَاءِ فَظَلُّوا فِيهِ يَعْرُجُونَ {14}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:14] And even if We open to them a gateway of heaven, so that they ascend into it all the while,[/size][/size]
لَقَالُوا إِنَّمَا سُكِّرَتْ أَبْصَارُنَا بَلْ نَحْنُ قَوْمٌ مَسْحُورُونَ {15}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:15] They would certainly say: Only our eyes have been covered over, rather we are an enchanted people.[/size][/size]
وَلَقَدْ جَعَلْنَا فِي السَّمَاءِ بُرُوجًا وَزَيَّنَّاهَا لِلنَّاظِرِينَ {16}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:16] And certainly We have made strongholds in the heaven and We have made it fair seeming to the beholders.[/size][/size]
وَحَفِظْنَاهَا مِنْ كُلِّ شَيْطَانٍ رَجِيمٍ {17}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:17] And We guard it against every accursed Shaitan,[/size][/size]
إِلَّا مَنِ اسْتَرَقَ السَّمْعَ فَأَتْبَعَهُ شِهَابٌ مُبِينٌ {18}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:18] But he who steals a hearing, so there follows him a visible flame.[/size][/size]
وَالْأَرْضَ مَدَدْنَاهَا وَأَلْقَيْنَا فِيهَا رَوَاسِيَ وَأَنْبَتْنَا فِيهَا مِنْ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ مَوْزُونٍ {19}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:19] And the earth-- We have spread it forth and made in it firm mountains and caused to grow in it of every suitable thing.[/size][/size]
وَجَعَلْنَا لَكُمْ فِيهَا مَعَايِشَ وَمَنْ لَسْتُمْ لَهُ بِرَازِقِينَ {20}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:20] And We have made in it means of subsistence for you and for him for whom you are not the suppliers.[/size][/size]
وَإِنْ مِنْ شَيْءٍ إِلَّا عِنْدَنَا خَزَائِنُهُ وَمَا نُنَزِّلُهُ إِلَّا بِقَدَرٍ مَعْلُومٍ {21}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:21] And there is not a thing but with Us are the treasures of it, and We do not send it down but in a known measure.[/size][/size]
وَأَرْسَلْنَا الرِّيَاحَ لَوَاقِحَ فَأَنْزَلْنَا مِنَ السَّمَاءِ مَاءً فَأَسْقَيْنَاكُمُوهُ وَمَا أَنْتُمْ لَهُ بِخَازِنِينَ {22}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:22] And We send the winds fertilizing, then send down water from the cloud so We give it to you to drink of, nor is it you who store it up.[/size][/size]
وَإِنَّا لَنَحْنُ نُحْيِي وَنُمِيتُ وَنَحْنُ الْوَارِثُونَ {23}
[size=undefined][size=undefined][Shakir 15:23] And most surely We bring to life and cause to die and We are the heirs.[/size][/size]






In brief, the context above shows that if God were to manifest Angels in their true form, it would be in the unseen, and then says if he would open a gateway to the heaven which is pertaining to the proof of Mohammad's claim, they would say they were going crazy rather then accept such proofs. Then it continue and says he made lanterns/strongholds in the heaven and made beautiful in the eyes of those who look.  And then talks about that realm higher realm is safeguarded from the devils except who steals a saying etc....

And talks about the treasure in the souls with respect to rain from the heaven.

And all this makes way for "therefore ask the family of the reminder" which comes in the next Surah and then again, 5 Surahs later. 

And the family of the reminder are with the reminder, they are stars that the highest realm (intellect of Mohammad at that time) is accompanied by.

There are parables to make us understand the nature of guidance and what we are connected to.

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EA. Logic doesn't work here. It wasn't logic they got people hooked on Allah in the first place.
It was fear, conformity and compulsory indoctrination. How do you unfix that?
You don't and you can't. It needs to be a generational change. And probably involving a few civil wars. Good luck man. Stay safe.

It's no wonder you guys don't see how amazing the Torah is, you're incapable of reflecting beyond literal.