Ultra Massive Black Holes......

[Yonadav]

At work.

Actually Brian37. I king of think Yonadav is referencing GC (GodChosen) and their comment of skepticism towards said cosmic events.

Hence the kudos to both of you.  

Cheers.

Damn, you people trip over yourselves. I challenged Brian to take it a little beyond the television show that he watched. One of the problems with Pop Science is that it sometimes presents information as an established fact that isn't established fact. There is some skepticism concerning the existence of black holes, and that skepticism is of an entirely scientific nature. We have never directly observed a black hole, and there are alternative explanations for what we have observed.

I am not saying that there are no black holes. I love the black hole concept. It's fascinating. Black holes are sexy. But a more complete worldview about black holes does entail the knowledge that they might not actually be a real thing. Even the wikipedia article about black holes talks about alternative understandings for what we have observed.

People around here feel this need to be like a hundred percent for or against things, and you constantly assassinate your own imaginations when you do that.

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I didn't say that black holes don't exist.

Good, so don't even imply they might not exist. We have plenty of evidence they do exist.

I think you are still getting a lip twitch about my OP saying that old mythology is not required to understand our modern scientific observations.

Nope, no lip twitch. You just think dumb things. Nothing that I have said in this discussion has anything to do with mythology. You're just fighting with figments of your imagination, as usual. What I said about the possibility that they don't exist was pure science, dude.