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Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
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RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
(April 19, 2020 at 2:11 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(March 1, 2020 at 7:14 pm)chimp3 Wrote: OK! I own a copy by Abdullah Yusef Ali with English translation. If I accept that the original is expressed accurately in all it's copies, why should I accept the original is true?

As a speaker of Arabic -both slang and formal, being a native Arab-, the translations are accurate. I understand English quite well and I didn't find notable "reforging" if any; the Arabic text is always the same -to the letter- but translations differ in small words but mainly the meaning is intact just since the source is intact.

You can see an example of that in this verse for example:

https://quran.com/2/256?translations=


to translate it myself:

لا
No

اكراه
Compulsion

في
In

الدين
Religion -an implicit reference to Islam-

قد
Had

تبين
became obvious

الرشد
The guidance

من
From

الغي
The wrong

ف
So

من
Whoever

يكفر
Disbelieves

ب
In

الطاغوت
The false God

و
and

يؤمن
Believes

ب
In

الله
Allah

فقد
Has

استمسك
Grasped

ب
In

العروة
The grip

الوثقى
The trustworthy

لا
No

انفصام
No break

لها
In it

و
and

الله
Allah

سميع
Hearing

عليم
Knowing
--------------------------

Most translations translate with minor differences like in the word "العروة"; while I chose "the grip" as its translation maybe other translators would choose the word "the handle".

Of course you can see that this no reason to start a sectarian civil war, but anyways the Muslims who say the Quran is not obvious to justify engaging in sectarian war are just extremists wanting interest for spilling blood.

Anyways, this is my opinion about the translation; reading for many translators would shed the light on the verse you would like to understand and read.

I am not seeking to understand any verse. My question is why I should believe any of it is true?
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!






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Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by chimp3 - March 1, 2020 at 7:14 pm
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by chimp3 - March 1, 2020 at 7:45 pm
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by no one - March 1, 2020 at 9:14 pm
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by LastPoet - April 18, 2020 at 8:13 am
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by Fireball - March 1, 2020 at 11:59 pm
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by Dundee - April 17, 2020 at 10:15 pm
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by Duty - April 18, 2020 at 3:26 pm
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by WinterHold - April 19, 2020 at 2:11 am
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by LastPoet - April 19, 2020 at 4:56 am
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by WinterHold - April 19, 2020 at 5:49 am
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by chimp3 - April 19, 2020 at 10:50 am
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by WinterHold - April 19, 2020 at 12:17 pm
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by Mr Greene - April 19, 2020 at 12:31 pm
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by chimp3 - April 19, 2020 at 12:45 pm
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by WinterHold - April 19, 2020 at 1:20 pm
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by chimp3 - April 19, 2020 at 8:23 pm
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by WinterHold - April 19, 2020 at 6:17 am
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by Mr Greene - April 19, 2020 at 1:00 pm
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by WinterHold - April 19, 2020 at 2:12 pm
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by WinterHold - April 20, 2020 at 5:14 am
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered... - by WinterHold - April 20, 2020 at 6:48 am

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