RE: Labor Unions - are you for or against it and why?
February 23, 2011 at 5:40 pm
(This post was last modified: February 23, 2011 at 5:42 pm by Oldandeasilyconfused.)
Quote:What does that translate to with inflation taken into account?
About $1 an hour.
Quote:That's rotten, no employer should be allowed to prevent you from joining a union if that's what you want to do.
Common practice,then and now,especially with kids,who tend to be naive. Fast food chains have a vile reputation in this country for exploiting their largely young workforce.
Quote:Did you have much success in negotiating?
Not in the early days ,but our success rate went through the roof once we started going on strike in 1984. Strikes would not have happened if our employer had negotiated in good faith.
Quote:The pragmatic part isn't necessarily true,
I made no truth claims
Quote:but I've got nothing against unions in principle.
Yet you seem to have a problem with the basic concept of unionism; a fair day's pay for a fair day's work. IE dictating how much the employer will pay? It is accepted that the owner of the means of production has a right to a fair return.BUT he does not have the right to exploit of his workers.
Quote:Slaves? No. Cheap labour? Yes.
Semantics.Marx( I think) coined the term 'wage slaves'. Only last week I also heard the phrase "debt is a form of slavery".
Working as long as one can and as hard as one can,yet not earning enough to live in even modest comfort is a form of slavery.Marx recognised the innate injustices and immorality of capitalism long before he and Engels wrote "Capital"
Void,we have an ideological difference which I doubt we can resolve. I'm happy to agree to differ.
