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[Serious] The Trinity
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RE: The Trinity
(January 16, 2021 at 10:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Correct; depending on what one means by that. For example, the identify of the whole atom is embodied in the number of protons (12 Protons = Carbon).

Can we still say then that the atom-particle example is a good way to explain/illustrate the Trinity?

What's your view on the following? Agree or disagree?

Quote:Each Person is fully God. If God is three Persons, does this mean that each Person is “one third” of God? Does the Trinity mean that God is divided into three parts?

The doctrine of the Trinity does not divide God into three parts. The Bible is clear that all three Persons are each one-hundred-percent God. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are each fully God. For example, Colossians 2:9 says of Christ, “in him all the fullness of deity dwells in bodily form.” We should not think of God as a “pie” cut into three pieces, each piece representing a Person. This would make each Person less than fully God and thus not God at all. Rather, “the being of each Person is equal to the whole being of God” (Grudem, Systematic Theology, 1994, page 255). The divine essence is not something that is divided between the three persons, but is fully in all three persons without being divided into “parts.”

Thus, the Son is not one-third of the being of God; he is all of the being of God. The Father is not one-third of the being of God; he is all of the being of God. And likewise with the Holy Spirit. Thus, as Wayne Grudem writes, “When we speak of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit together we are not speaking of any greater being than when we speak of the Father alone, the Son alone, or the Holy Spirit alone” (Ibid., 252).

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The Trinity - by zwanzig - January 15, 2021 at 1:11 pm
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RE: The Trinity - by The Grand Nudger - January 15, 2021 at 9:47 pm
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RE: The Trinity - by arewethereyet - January 15, 2021 at 10:36 pm
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RE: The Trinity - by arewethereyet - January 15, 2021 at 11:07 pm
RE: The Trinity - by zwanzig - January 15, 2021 at 11:38 pm
RE: The Trinity - by arewethereyet - January 16, 2021 at 12:01 am
RE: The Trinity - by Duty - January 16, 2021 at 1:41 pm
RE: The Trinity - by arewethereyet - January 16, 2021 at 1:46 pm
RE: The Trinity - by John 6IX Breezy - January 16, 2021 at 4:02 pm
RE: The Trinity - by Grandizer - January 16, 2021 at 9:39 pm
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RE: The Trinity - by arewethereyet - January 23, 2021 at 10:31 pm
RE: The Trinity - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2021 at 4:11 pm

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