RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science
December 1, 2021 at 9:08 am
(This post was last modified: December 1, 2021 at 9:12 am by vulcanlogician.)
Nice rant. I very much enjoyed it. Especially the cosmic horror bit. I think most colloquial conceptions of God are just people kind of going along with what their encompassing religious social group says. As you point out, it leads to absurdity pretty quick. Because people are just repeating a bunch of stuff they've never critically examined. It's nonsense.
Thoughtful theists, who scrutinize and question their own theologies, tend to be able to avoid some of this absurdity, although questions still remain. Leo Tolstoy, who I recently mentioned, has such a take on Christian theology. It's grounded and realistic... careful with its claims. You can't expect that from Baptists, Mormons, and others. Such people are members of a social institution first and believers second.
(December 1, 2021 at 9:01 am)Ten Wrote:(December 1, 2021 at 8:59 am)Belacqua Wrote: Category error.
Metaphysical issues can't be proven with physical evidence, by definition.
You said what I just said in fewer words.
Define metaphysical. That should keep you busy for a bit.
Remember the "Do chairs exist?" thread? Whether you answer yes or no to that question, you accept some sort of metaphysical theory. As Bel points out, you can't prove a metaphysical theory with evidence... but you can make substantive logical arguments. So it's not dogmatic or anything.