Hello.....I have a little problem

[Statler Waldorf]

We don't steal our morality from scripture. There are people who have never heard of the ten commandments or other bullshit, who seem to do fine.

That’s completely in line with what scripture teaches. You have a sense of morality that is innate because you are created in the image of God and through God’s grace you have been granted an internal awareness of the truth. This is why you appeal to transcendent concepts of morality that could not exist given your worldview.

These are my favorite kinds of threads. The kind that degenerate into a conversation that will never end.

As for the OP, I wouldn't waste my time, if I were you. I personally don't give a shit what people believe, as long as they are not hurting other people. If you spend your life trying to change their minds, you'll find you have wasted your life. You can't take away people's crutches, easily. Take our dear friend Stat for example.

Stop stealing from my worldview just because it's more consistent than yours. It’s not a matter of taking away my crutch, it’s a matter of me not letting you be irrational and deny truth.

Funny how that works huh?

Tell it to Cardinal Torquemada, Pope Urban II, and John Calvin. Murdering fucks, every last one of them and all claiming that god gave them the right to do it.


I defy you to find evidence of Stalin proclaiming that NOT GOD gave him the right to kill anyone. ( NOT COMMUNISTS yes...but he didn't give a shit about your god)

Neither do I.

History is not your strength is it? Calvin never murdered anyone; rather he was one of the most influential scholars in the history of man. Either way, Stalin’s 50 million dead out numbers any atrocity committed by anyone claiming to be religious, I’ll even let you throw in the Muslims if you’d like. Stalin’s own testimony is clear that he left the Orthodox Church because of Darwinism and used his atheistic naturalism to justify his murdering of the weak. Atheists really need to drop the blame game, because it really only shines the light on their own defective and evil worldview.

This ought to be fun though, given your worldview why would it be "wrong" to kill anyone? I know why it is wrong; I want to see if you can justify it given your worldview.