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Fear of death

Poll: Do you fear your own death?
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I believe in an afterlife, and am fearful over the idea of my own death.
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I believe in an afterlife, and have no fear of my own death.
6.00%
 3 6.00%
I do not believe in an afterlife, and am fearful over the idea of my own death.
18.00%
 9 18.00%
I do not believe in an afterlife, and have no fear of my own death.
62.00%
 31 62.00%
Other [please explain]
14.00%
 7 14.00%
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RE: Fear of death
January 5, 2012 at 8:30 pm
(January 5, 2012 at 11:24 am)amkerman Wrote: I just don't get it whateverist. How is life precious w/o God? I mean I understand how we could perceive it to be precious w/o God, but that perception is just illusory isn't it? Without God aren't life and death ultimately meaningless?

As far as I can understand life has real meaning and there must be something real which we call "God" OR any "meaning" in life is illusory and people choose to believe in the illusion of God to give their life meaning.

Believing that meaning is real but that "God" is illusory doesn't make any sense. It's exactly the same belief.

If someone could explain how life has real meaning without "God" I am all ears. Honestly I'm not trying to get into an argument I just want to hear the rationalization.

If you believe it can't and it doesn't that's fine, it's just a difference of opinion. I AM NOT ATTACKING ANYONE's BELIEFS.

No worries. I don't feel attacked but I have to tell you what you say sounds so strange to my ear. I find plenty of meaning in my life without any belief in god. So that makes me wonder if we're using "meaning" in the same way.

I'm guessing you mean there are consequences for your actions living life the way you do. So perhaps for you "meaning" results from there being a pay off or accounting afterwords based on the way you live your life. You're carrying a score card and if you can post a low enough sin count, you may make the cut. That will permit you to go on endlessly and keep you out of hell. But will you find any meaning in heaven? If no one is keeping score once you make it to the other side, will your existence lose all meaning?

I know, you expect to be united with everyone you ever loved and in the company of God, etc, but will such an existence have any meaning for you if there is no longer any score card. If you think there is a way to find meaning in such an after life, then I suggest to you that that is the sort of meaning I find right here and now in my mortal life. While I suspect you expect to find glory and wonder in a wondrous place called heaven, I find glory and wonder in this wondrous world we live in. For me heaven is a state of mind I can inhabit some of the time.
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Fear of death - by Jackalope - December 17, 2011 at 2:37 am
RE: Fear of death - by The Grand Nudger - December 17, 2011 at 2:39 am
RE: Fear of death - by Jackalope - December 17, 2011 at 2:44 am
RE: Fear of death - by The Grand Nudger - December 17, 2011 at 2:50 am
RE: Fear of death - by Perhaps - December 17, 2011 at 3:08 am
RE: Fear of death - by Diamond - December 17, 2011 at 3:20 am
RE: Fear of death - by Shell B - December 17, 2011 at 3:20 am
RE: Fear of death - by 5thHorseman - December 17, 2011 at 7:50 am
RE: Fear of death - by Shell B - December 17, 2011 at 7:54 am
RE: Fear of death - by 5thHorseman - December 17, 2011 at 12:51 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Jackalope - December 17, 2011 at 3:29 am
RE: Fear of death - by Ace Otana - December 17, 2011 at 7:52 am
RE: Fear of death - by Welsh cake - December 17, 2011 at 8:33 am
RE: Fear of death - by Norfolk And Chance - December 17, 2011 at 9:30 am
RE: Fear of death - by Erinome - December 17, 2011 at 11:02 am
RE: Fear of death - by helmespc - December 17, 2011 at 12:38 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Shell B - December 17, 2011 at 12:58 pm
RE: Fear of death - by genkaus - December 17, 2011 at 3:27 pm
RE: Fear of death - by J.D. - December 17, 2011 at 11:14 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Erinome - December 18, 2011 at 12:03 am
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - December 18, 2011 at 4:46 am
RE: Fear of death - by Norfolk And Chance - December 18, 2011 at 8:50 am
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - December 19, 2011 at 1:05 am
RE: Fear of death - by houseofcantor - December 21, 2011 at 8:17 am
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - December 21, 2011 at 10:46 am
RE: Fear of death - by houseofcantor - December 21, 2011 at 10:23 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - December 22, 2011 at 3:58 am
RE: Fear of death - by Blam! - December 22, 2011 at 4:15 am
RE: Fear of death - by KichigaiNeko - December 22, 2011 at 8:57 am
RE: Fear of death - by houseofcantor - December 24, 2011 at 12:38 am
RE: Fear of death - by Welsh cake - December 18, 2011 at 7:44 am
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - December 19, 2011 at 1:45 am
RE: Fear of death - by Welsh cake - December 18, 2011 at 9:59 am
RE: Fear of death - by Norfolk And Chance - December 19, 2011 at 10:10 am
RE: Fear of death - by 5thHorseman - December 18, 2011 at 10:05 am
RE: Fear of death - by KichigaiNeko - December 19, 2011 at 1:26 am
RE: Fear of death - by reverendjeremiah - December 19, 2011 at 3:34 am
RE: Fear of death - by KichigaiNeko - December 19, 2011 at 6:02 am
RE: Fear of death - by Hoptoad - December 19, 2011 at 7:01 am
RE: Fear of death - by Welsh cake - December 19, 2011 at 7:14 am
RE: Fear of death - by Blam! - December 21, 2011 at 4:45 am
RE: Fear of death - by houseofcantor - December 21, 2011 at 10:28 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Erinome - December 21, 2011 at 10:28 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Erinome - December 21, 2011 at 10:36 pm
RE: Fear of death - by houseofcantor - December 21, 2011 at 10:43 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Erinome - December 21, 2011 at 10:46 pm
RE: Fear of death - by houseofcantor - December 22, 2011 at 1:21 am
RE: Fear of death - by theotherone - December 22, 2011 at 4:37 am
RE: Fear of death - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 12:04 pm
RE: Fear of death - by 5thHorseman - December 22, 2011 at 12:29 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Azazylix - December 24, 2011 at 9:17 am
RE: Fear of death - by ThinkingTom - December 31, 2011 at 2:51 am
RE: Fear of death - by Faith No More - December 31, 2011 at 9:21 am
RE: Fear of death - by Norfolk And Chance - December 31, 2011 at 9:45 am
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - January 1, 2012 at 5:47 am
RE: Fear of death - by Whateverist - January 1, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - January 1, 2012 at 6:09 pm
RE: Fear of death - by houseofcantor - January 2, 2012 at 12:08 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - January 2, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Norfolk And Chance - January 2, 2012 at 4:38 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Norfolk And Chance - January 2, 2012 at 4:40 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Whateverist - January 2, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RE: Fear of death - by houseofcantor - January 2, 2012 at 11:45 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Whateverist - January 2, 2012 at 12:39 pm
RE: Fear of death - by houseofcantor - January 1, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Fear of death - by HeyItsZeus - December 24, 2011 at 9:47 am
RE: Fear of death - by houseofcantor - December 24, 2011 at 10:05 am
RE: Fear of death - by passionatefool - December 31, 2011 at 3:09 am
RE: Fear of death - by Welsh cake - December 31, 2011 at 9:48 am
RE: Fear of death - by Norfolk And Chance - December 31, 2011 at 9:51 am
RE: Fear of death - by Welsh cake - December 31, 2011 at 10:34 am
RE: Fear of death - by Perhaps - December 31, 2011 at 1:21 pm
RE: Fear of death - by UNoSonnn - December 31, 2011 at 2:32 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Welsh cake - December 31, 2011 at 4:46 pm
RE: Fear of death - by ThinkingTom - January 1, 2012 at 3:04 am
RE: Fear of death - by Welsh cake - January 1, 2012 at 6:53 am
RE: Fear of death - by downbeatplumb - January 1, 2012 at 3:32 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Norfolk And Chance - January 1, 2012 at 11:15 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Cyberman - January 2, 2012 at 3:24 am
RE: Fear of death - by ThinkingTom - January 2, 2012 at 3:31 am
RE: Fear of death - by Welsh cake - January 2, 2012 at 3:10 am
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - January 2, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Cyberman - January 2, 2012 at 3:40 am
RE: Fear of death - by downbeatplumb - January 2, 2012 at 8:48 am
RE: Fear of death - by Cyberman - January 2, 2012 at 5:40 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Jackalope - January 2, 2012 at 7:21 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Rhizomorph13 - January 2, 2012 at 3:18 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Norfolk And Chance - January 2, 2012 at 4:07 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Ace Otana - January 2, 2012 at 4:39 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Cyberman - January 2, 2012 at 7:30 pm
RE: Fear of death - by jason56 - January 3, 2012 at 8:06 pm
RE: Fear of death - by houseofcantor - January 3, 2012 at 9:39 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Michelle_Patton - January 4, 2012 at 2:55 am
RE: Fear of death - by Welsh cake - January 4, 2012 at 6:16 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Atharonis - January 4, 2012 at 7:57 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - January 5, 2012 at 5:20 am
RE: Fear of death - by KichigaiNeko - January 5, 2012 at 5:29 am
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - January 5, 2012 at 5:47 am
RE: Fear of death - by KichigaiNeko - January 5, 2012 at 5:59 am
RE: Fear of death - by Ace Otana - January 5, 2012 at 11:47 am
RE: Fear of death - by houseofcantor - January 5, 2012 at 6:04 am
RE: Fear of death - by kılıç_mehmet - January 4, 2012 at 10:12 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Whateverist - January 5, 2012 at 10:42 am
RE: Fear of death - by amkerman - January 5, 2012 at 11:24 am
RE: Fear of death - by Whateverist - January 5, 2012 at 8:30 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Atharonis - January 5, 2012 at 2:37 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - January 5, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: Fear of death - by KichigaiNeko - January 5, 2012 at 10:49 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - January 6, 2012 at 3:29 am
RE: Fear of death - by KichigaiNeko - January 6, 2012 at 3:36 am
RE: Fear of death - by Zen Badger - January 6, 2012 at 10:09 am
RE: Fear of death - by houseofcantor - January 7, 2012 at 1:26 am
RE: Fear of death - by Zen Badger - January 8, 2012 at 6:54 am
RE: Fear of death - by downbeatplumb - January 8, 2012 at 8:17 am
RE: Fear of death - by Perhaps - January 5, 2012 at 3:30 pm
RE: Fear of death - by amkerman - January 5, 2012 at 11:24 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Whateverist - January 6, 2012 at 12:18 am
RE: Fear of death - by houseofcantor - January 6, 2012 at 2:58 am
RE: Fear of death - by HarryStanluv25 - January 8, 2012 at 4:57 am
RE: Fear of death - by Ace Otana - January 8, 2012 at 6:46 am
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - January 8, 2012 at 10:55 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Rhizomorph13 - January 8, 2012 at 11:27 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Whateverist - January 9, 2012 at 12:00 am
RE: Fear of death - by kılıç_mehmet - January 9, 2012 at 12:17 am
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - January 9, 2012 at 1:52 am
RE: Fear of death - by kılıç_mehmet - January 9, 2012 at 2:15 am
RE: Fear of death - by Zen Badger - January 9, 2012 at 8:29 am
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - January 9, 2012 at 3:59 pm
RE: Fear of death - by KichigaiNeko - January 8, 2012 at 8:11 am
RE: Fear of death - by KichigaiNeko - January 8, 2012 at 9:09 am
RE: Fear of death - by kılıç_mehmet - January 8, 2012 at 11:24 pm
RE: Fear of death - by The Grand Nudger - January 9, 2012 at 1:57 am
RE: Fear of death - by KichigaiNeko - January 9, 2012 at 8:41 am
RE: Fear of death - by houseofcantor - January 9, 2012 at 11:40 am
Fear of death - by Zen Badger - January 9, 2012 at 4:47 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - January 10, 2012 at 4:23 am
RE: Fear of death - by Whateverist - January 10, 2012 at 6:23 am
RE: Fear of death - by Faith No More - January 10, 2012 at 9:05 am
RE: Fear of death - by Whateverist - January 10, 2012 at 10:10 am
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - January 10, 2012 at 10:10 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Whateverist - January 11, 2012 at 2:27 am
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - January 11, 2012 at 4:00 am
RE: Fear of death - by Whateverist - January 11, 2012 at 12:07 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - January 11, 2012 at 3:03 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Whateverist - January 11, 2012 at 10:36 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - January 12, 2012 at 2:19 am
RE: Fear of death - by Zen Badger - January 11, 2012 at 6:25 am
RE: Fear of death - by Norfolk And Chance - January 11, 2012 at 5:44 am
RE: Fear of death - by The Grand Nudger - January 12, 2012 at 2:52 am
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - January 12, 2012 at 5:24 pm
RE: Fear of death - by Braveheart - January 12, 2012 at 5:31 pm
RE: Fear of death - by houseofcantor - January 13, 2012 at 3:12 am
RE: Fear of death - by Godschild - January 13, 2012 at 6:07 am
RE: Fear of death - by genkaus - January 13, 2012 at 6:26 am
RE: Fear of death - by Zen Badger - January 13, 2012 at 7:53 am
RE: Fear of death - by Whateverist - January 13, 2012 at 8:56 am
RE: Fear of death - by houseofcantor - January 13, 2012 at 1:36 pm

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