RE: Does Atheism make sense?
January 8, 2012 at 12:13 am
(This post was last modified: January 8, 2012 at 12:28 am by organiccornflake.)
Interesting link TDOA! However, I would like to point out the obvious bias of the link (as the website is called "evilbible") and that left room for a lot of biased assumptions. Allow me to elaborate using text from the link;
While many slaves may have worked as household servants, that doesn't mean that they were not slaves who were bought, sold, and treated worse than livestock
That doesn't mean they were, either. It isn't conclusive in either direction, really.
The following passage shows that slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock.
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
So many emotionally charged words. Once again, the author says "like livestock." Where is he getting this?
The following passage describes the sickening practice of sex slavery. How can anyone think it is moral to sell your own daughter as a sex slave?
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
So these are the Bible family values! A man can buy as many sex slaves as he wants as long as he feeds them, clothes them, and screws them!
To understand this; you must understand that selling your daughter into sex wasnt sex slavery, it was marriage. Now, also you must understand that the only women that had any value in biblical days were virgins; that is why if she chose not to "please" her master she may be sold back only to her family, as she still has her purity. But, once she gave her virginity to her master, she had no value, and it was in her best interest to stay with the one who cared enough to buy her. So, if you were a man back then, what would common sense tell you to do? Buy a wife, have sex with her, then (since she was no longer a valued virgin) sell her, or buy another wife and just forget about the first one, right? This passage protects the women from that, as they may not be sold AND their quality of life must not be reduced as a product of the purchase of another wife. This passage is for the protection of the women.
What does the Bible say about beating slaves? It says you can beat both male and female slaves with a rod so hard that as long as they don't die right away you are cleared of any wrong doing.
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
This emotionally-charged paragraph is forgetting one major thing; why the slave was being struck. The verse is simply saying that you are not allowed to capitally punish slaves for their actions.
The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)
Punishment for refusing to do your job. Not unreasonable. Light punishment for ignorant disobedience sounds about right. The last sentences of this passage go on to say "With power comes responsibility." A good bit of wisdom for slave masters.
All in all; that link demonizes biblical slavery and, through assumptions and avoidance of obvious questions, turns biblical slavery into something it wasn't.
Judging the morality of slavery is difficult; as many people still believe it to be morally okay. Who is to say it is incorrect?
Also, what must be understood is it teaches of the importance of service in life. The bible teaches not to be worried of "when your going to eat," but to be filled with the joy of god. The bible is saying that servants should submit, and be examples, ESPECIALLY the christian servants . The punishment is brief; and the gift of paradise is eternal.
While many slaves may have worked as household servants, that doesn't mean that they were not slaves who were bought, sold, and treated worse than livestock
That doesn't mean they were, either. It isn't conclusive in either direction, really.
The following passage shows that slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock.
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
So many emotionally charged words. Once again, the author says "like livestock." Where is he getting this?
The following passage describes the sickening practice of sex slavery. How can anyone think it is moral to sell your own daughter as a sex slave?
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
So these are the Bible family values! A man can buy as many sex slaves as he wants as long as he feeds them, clothes them, and screws them!
To understand this; you must understand that selling your daughter into sex wasnt sex slavery, it was marriage. Now, also you must understand that the only women that had any value in biblical days were virgins; that is why if she chose not to "please" her master she may be sold back only to her family, as she still has her purity. But, once she gave her virginity to her master, she had no value, and it was in her best interest to stay with the one who cared enough to buy her. So, if you were a man back then, what would common sense tell you to do? Buy a wife, have sex with her, then (since she was no longer a valued virgin) sell her, or buy another wife and just forget about the first one, right? This passage protects the women from that, as they may not be sold AND their quality of life must not be reduced as a product of the purchase of another wife. This passage is for the protection of the women.
What does the Bible say about beating slaves? It says you can beat both male and female slaves with a rod so hard that as long as they don't die right away you are cleared of any wrong doing.
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
This emotionally-charged paragraph is forgetting one major thing; why the slave was being struck. The verse is simply saying that you are not allowed to capitally punish slaves for their actions.
The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)
Punishment for refusing to do your job. Not unreasonable. Light punishment for ignorant disobedience sounds about right. The last sentences of this passage go on to say "With power comes responsibility." A good bit of wisdom for slave masters.
All in all; that link demonizes biblical slavery and, through assumptions and avoidance of obvious questions, turns biblical slavery into something it wasn't.
Judging the morality of slavery is difficult; as many people still believe it to be morally okay. Who is to say it is incorrect?
Also, what must be understood is it teaches of the importance of service in life. The bible teaches not to be worried of "when your going to eat," but to be filled with the joy of god. The bible is saying that servants should submit, and be examples, ESPECIALLY the christian servants . The punishment is brief; and the gift of paradise is eternal.
