RE: The Death and Resurrection of Christ?
January 5, 2012 at 6:31 am
(This post was last modified: January 5, 2012 at 6:36 am by Godscreated.)
(January 5, 2012 at 5:52 am)Zen Badger Wrote:(January 5, 2012 at 2:51 am)Godschild Wrote:(January 3, 2012 at 4:07 pm)aleialoura Wrote: Paul of Tarsus was the person who dreamed up Jesus. No one ever heard of him until a few hundred years after he supposedly died.
I'd like to add that the story of Jesus is plagiarized in parts. It's not even a 100% original story.
That's a lie.
Please provide evidence in support of your assertion.
Otherwise you have no argument.... again.
All of it is untrue, my main disagreement was with the time line, Christ was written about shortly after his death. Paul had no reason to fabricate such a story, Paul's conversion was not even written by himself. Saul was a loyal Jew and was putting christians in jail it would have been stupid for him to makeup such a story. He was held in high regard by the Jewish religious leaders, why would he give up such a good life over a lie.
(January 5, 2012 at 6:29 am)Zen Badger Wrote:(January 5, 2012 at 6:20 am)Godschild Wrote: Since you mentioned the Bible let's take the story as given. Pilate called in the solider over the crucifixion and asked him if Jesus was dead, a Roman solider does not lie about such things it would cost him his life. The Romans were very good at crucifixion and would not let anyone off a cross that was still alive. But I know how it is, you want me to believe Jesus to be the only one to escape death on a cross out of the tens of thousands that were crucified. Well I not so foolish as to believe that are you?
No, the bible is not going to be taken as a "given"
That's the point of the thread, for you to provide evidence outside of the bible.
Using the bible to support the bible counts as circular reasoning.
I was asked to read the account in the Bible, the part about the Roman soliders and the crucifixion are from history not the Bible.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.