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A New Way of Looking at Atheism..
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RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism..
(January 18, 2012 at 9:26 pm)a moment Wrote: This also supports the argument that atheism cannot be based on scientific foundations; it is rather based on philosophical ones.

I can't see any reason to base atheism on anything whatsoever. I don't need to make any case in order to reject God. Lots of things are claimed by lots of people, but I'm not required to believe any of it unless I can show they are mistaken. I merely don't adopt belief in any claim for which no case can be made which convinces me. I reject your God along with the rest because I find all the evidence I've been subjected to unconvincing. I have no problem with your believing in your god if you do. Perhaps you've been convinced. But I haven't.

(January 18, 2012 at 9:26 pm)a moment Wrote: What you said means you didn’t base your choice of atheism on scientific basis but on logical ones, in my argument I proved that atheism can’t be based on science, and so far no one refuted that.

Perhaps you did. But since atheism requires no argument, what of it? I'll go you one better and concede that science also cannot be used to support a belief in God .. nor prove that God does not exist. Science just isn't really about gods since, so far, no one has been able to detect or measure one. As has already been said, absence of evidence certainly is not evidence of absence. So I have nothing to say against you believing what you will. I don't think you're foolish. I just assume the axiom of God's existence goes so deep in you that it isn't in play for you. That's okay. You've got this one life. If that makes the most sense to you, go for it.

(January 18, 2012 at 9:26 pm)a moment Wrote: Logically, there is a creator for every created, nothing creates itself, which makes belief in god more reasonable than atheism. This is simple logic.

Yes there is a creator for everything that has been created .. watches, automobiles and so on. But it doesn't follow that nothing creates itself. All that follows from the first sentence would be "nothing that has been created creates itself. If you look at how once an egg has been fertilized, indeed the animal does assemble itself according to the plans contained in its DNA. This is nothing short of miraculous when you think about it. Perhaps wondrous is the better word because it clearly happens all by itself. The parent doesn't do it. No one has witnessed God reach into every fertilized egg and assemble the animal. No the materials within the egg are literally assembled by themselves. Can you tell that I am in awe of this fact? If someone told me that an army of Tinkerbells sent by God went around assembling each each creature by magic I would be a good deal less impressed.

(January 18, 2012 at 9:26 pm)a moment Wrote: .. on what logic did you base your disbelief in the possibility of god‘s existence?

Not sure what the person you asked thought, but I don't think god's existence is impossible. I, like lots of people on this site, am agnostic on that question. If you hear anything new and impressive please keep us posted. I just haven' been impressed by anything I've heard so far. I try to keep an open mind.
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A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by a moment - January 15, 2012 at 8:13 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Phil - January 15, 2012 at 8:18 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Braveheart - January 15, 2012 at 11:21 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Darwinian - January 15, 2012 at 8:21 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by a moment - January 15, 2012 at 8:35 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Phil - January 15, 2012 at 8:38 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by dloubet - January 15, 2012 at 8:37 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by a moment - January 15, 2012 at 8:40 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Phil - January 15, 2012 at 9:41 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by a moment - January 15, 2012 at 10:11 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Darwinian - January 15, 2012 at 8:40 pm
A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Zen Badger - January 15, 2012 at 9:33 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by a moment - January 15, 2012 at 10:00 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by KichigaiNeko - January 15, 2012 at 9:33 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Minimalist - January 15, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Jackalope - January 15, 2012 at 10:09 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Rhizomorph13 - January 15, 2012 at 10:09 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by KichigaiNeko - January 16, 2012 at 12:06 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Phil - January 16, 2012 at 9:18 am
A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Zen Badger - January 16, 2012 at 12:11 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Erinome - January 16, 2012 at 3:39 am
A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Zen Badger - January 16, 2012 at 4:18 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by 8BitAtheist - January 16, 2012 at 4:19 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by KichigaiNeko - January 16, 2012 at 5:31 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by genkaus - January 16, 2012 at 7:40 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Aegrus - January 16, 2012 at 11:38 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by a moment - January 18, 2012 at 9:26 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by genkaus - January 19, 2012 at 4:46 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Whateverist - January 20, 2012 at 11:59 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by KichigaiNeko - January 21, 2012 at 12:02 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Whateverist - January 21, 2012 at 12:08 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by KichigaiNeko - January 21, 2012 at 12:12 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Rhizomorph13 - January 16, 2012 at 11:42 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by houseofcantor - January 17, 2012 at 8:09 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Rhizomorph13 - January 17, 2012 at 11:26 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by houseofcantor - January 22, 2012 at 3:24 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by thesummerqueen - January 17, 2012 at 11:59 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Rhizomorph13 - January 17, 2012 at 12:14 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Napoléon - January 17, 2012 at 12:15 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by thesummerqueen - January 17, 2012 at 12:15 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by thesummerqueen - January 17, 2012 at 12:16 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by padraic - January 17, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Mister Agenda - January 17, 2012 at 12:41 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by technophobe - January 17, 2012 at 1:52 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by frankiej - January 17, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by JohnDG - January 17, 2012 at 4:55 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Forsaken - January 17, 2012 at 7:02 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by KichigaiNeko - January 17, 2012 at 11:54 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by padraic - January 19, 2012 at 1:30 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Perhaps - January 19, 2012 at 2:23 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Whateverist - January 21, 2012 at 12:38 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Ace Otana - January 19, 2012 at 6:53 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Doubting Thomas - January 19, 2012 at 3:03 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by passionatefool - January 20, 2012 at 3:52 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Rhizomorph13 - January 20, 2012 at 3:34 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by KichigaiNeko - January 22, 2012 at 3:41 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by houseofcantor - January 22, 2012 at 6:55 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Ryft - January 22, 2012 at 5:33 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Perhaps - January 23, 2012 at 12:39 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Ryft - January 23, 2012 at 12:51 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Perhaps - January 23, 2012 at 1:21 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by padraic - January 23, 2012 at 3:18 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by houseofcantor - January 23, 2012 at 4:23 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by genkaus - January 24, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Mister Agenda - January 25, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Edwardo Piet - January 23, 2012 at 7:34 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by KichigaiNeko - January 23, 2012 at 7:49 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by LastPoet - January 23, 2012 at 7:56 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by KichigaiNeko - January 23, 2012 at 11:00 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Doubting Thomas - January 23, 2012 at 5:37 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by houseofcantor - January 27, 2012 at 3:06 am

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