RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 5, 2013 at 2:12 pm
(This post was last modified: January 5, 2013 at 2:15 pm by Undeceived.)
(January 5, 2013 at 9:05 am)RichardP Wrote:So you accept the part(s) where Jesus seems to teach the commandments and reject the countless more times where he teaches belief because they seem "absurd" to you? Your Jesus is a theoretical one. Mine is the biblical one. It's no wonder we don't see eye to eye. Tell me, what makes God's moral judgment absurd in your eyes? You confessed the virtues of not stealing, not committing adultery, honoring parents and so on. God decreed a law that anyone breaking a commandment (doing evil) would deserve death. If you were in a position where you deserved death, would you accept God's forgiveness?(January 5, 2013 at 4:59 am)Undeceived Wrote: Below are instances where Jesus preaches salvation by belief. How do you reconcile them with your claim that Jesus taught salvation by obeying commandments?
Luke 5:20 "When Jesus saw their faith, he said, 'Friend, your sins are forgiven.'"
Luke 7:50: "Your faith has saved you."
John 3:16: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
John 11:25: "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies."
John 14:6: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
I asked for you to give me more examples where Jesus told people to obey the law to receive life. You reposted your one example. What do you think of my explanation of Matthew 19:16-26?
I don't reconcile them. I don't believe that Jesus could magically "forgive" anybody of their sins.