RE: A challenge about women and marriage in Islam
May 2, 2013 at 6:48 pm
(This post was last modified: May 2, 2013 at 7:11 pm by paulpablo.)
(May 2, 2013 at 5:33 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote:(May 2, 2013 at 5:06 pm)paulpablo Wrote: From a statistical perspective 38 is lower than 62.
62 is higher than 38.
And 50.1% is higher than 49.9%... struggling... to.... see... your... point.
Quote:The trend is very likely to carry on in that way due to the biology of humans, the more older you are the more likely you are to have gone through puberty and puberty is related to sex.
Well... if we keep pumping our little girls full of female cow hormones: what do you expect happens to them?
Yeah... puberty is related to sex. You know what else is related to sex? Pleasure Know what rather curious people might discover well before puberty? Masturbation, and 'playing with themselves' in general.
Quote:It is logically unlikely that you will gather statistics from a group of 9 10 11 and 12 year olds to find the 10 year olds were having less sex than the 11 year olds but the percentage of those who did were mostly not doing it willingly 11 year olds were having less sex than the 12 year olds half of which were willing but then later find out the 9 year olds were having more sex than the 10 year olds and more willingly.
On... what basis? Oh right, we're still working with three data points... and forming conclusions on what the other datapoints MUST look like without any data. I wonder what that makes us look like.
I haven't investigated his data, the data being irrelevant to my argument. I consider the whole thing a big old distraction from philosophical readability and not being hypocritical and stuff. It's really easy, and I'm dying... because you're not fucking doing it. So easy!
Challenge: form an argument which allows for what you are trying to do WITHOUT applying special pleading or arbitrariness into the argument.
I'm arguing that 9 year olds shouldn't have sex it isn't exactly difficult. There's no pleading involved and I'm using the statistics of the person I'm arguing against.
Which is a better law for most 9 year olds, the one that allows them to legally get pregnant, beaten, distracted or totally brought out of education plus in realistic practical terms results in child abuse and forced marriages coerced by parents and so on.
Or a law which promotes not having sex with 9 year olds, good parenting education, no domestic abuse and so on, it's actually boring me how little effort I have to put into the argument, as I said I haven't even used my statistics and by the way yes I would say those statistics do result in 9 year olds wanting less sex than 10 year olds based on the information on those charts.
Guess how the majority of mammals on this earth came into being? By their parents having sex. Condoms split, contraception often causes medical problems so they aren't always advisable, abortions are often dangerous and basically it's just better for the 9 year old to remain not pregnant, call me old fashioned that's just how I see things.
Quote:And 50.1% is higher than 49.9%... struggling... to.... see... your... point.
My point is the majority vast vast majority of 10 year olds don't have sex, the majority that do, didn't want to and were persuaded by force or threats. You asked to see these statistics and they are provided to you by someone who is arguing the same point as you, now I paste them in front of you and you ask me what my point is?
Don't ask me for statistical evidence if you don't want to see it and refuse to see the point in it even if it is right in front of your nose.
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