RE: A challenge about women and marriage in Islam
May 12, 2013 at 6:16 pm
(This post was last modified: May 12, 2013 at 6:38 pm by paulpablo.)
Quote:Age as a differential tells us only how old a being is, separating groups of identical beings on a basis of 'how old they are', and not on 'the qualities of <arbitrary>' isn't a logical separation (the beings are capable of the same things). It's the same as creating a 'Race Line' between blacks and whites... same output, yet one is unjustly separated from the other on the basis of an irrelevant difference. What I'm saying: you cannot logically defend doing this, as you're creating a case of special pleading for one of the groups in your separating of it from the other.
Age separation is nothing like racial separation, clearly there is a relationship between biological and psychological maturity and age.
Also what is a
Quote: logically defendable legalization tool
How is anything I've mentioned got anything to do with serfdom or barring 50 percent of the population from getting a job?
Quote:We have a term here for when someone spectacularly misses the point. That term is:
*WOOSH*
Make your point then, in what way does gay marriage have to do with the Islamic system of marriage, I've only actually argued against the Islamic system of marriage which allows an adult man to marry a 9 year old female, I haven't even proposed an argument against gay or lesbian sex at age 9 simply because it has nothing to do with the thread.
Also if you admit that christian beliefs have nothing to do with the reality of what Jesus actually did then how does what Muhammad actually did interfere at all with what the Muslim beliefs are and what the Islamic system is?
Quote:What are the things I say don't matter? Age? How does that matter, if you'd care to illustrate this to me?
Because personally I don't believe a child should have the option of becoming pregnant even if they want to.
I also think that a lot of growing up occurs between the ages of 9 and 16 and a lot of wisdom is accumulated between those ages that's certainly the case for me and the case for everyone I've grown up with. I think 9 year olds are more vulnerable to abuse in general and as you stated people within marriages are vulnerable to abuse anyway, just making the situation worse.
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