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Faith, Hope & Love?
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RE: Faith, Hope & Love?
(August 20, 2013 at 11:20 pm)ronedee Wrote: Are these just pirated Christian "words"? Or do they have any meaning to you at all?

1. Can you have Faith in anything/anyone (as an anti-?), or is it just a word? Is having Faith(in anything) always a let-down, as so many claim?

2. And Hope? Is that just another word like Faith, or does it mean something very different? Hope is very powerful to many people with, and w/o religion. Is it "false" hope that keeps them going? Or is it real in any sense?

3. Love. What is that? Isn't it more than an emotion ....really? Is there any amount of words, phrases, adjectives that can truly describe LOVE, other than the experience itself? I mean, love can do so many things, on so many levels! And effect/affect us in so many ways! It's probably the strongest experience we will ever know besides death itself.

Why are these: virtues/values/emotions/words etc. so important to everyone regardless of religion?

Is it logical to have these virtues; with the many things they spawn? Is it a function of social necessity? Or a tool to manipulate for personal gain and profit? Would we be better off w/o them? Would we be human w/o them. Where do they fit in your evolution of man? i.e. Did one day the "ape" wake-up and not want to eat its young?

Whats your take on these very powerful words, and their effect on our lives? Gut, not textbook, please!

Christianity doesn't 'own' those words. Non-Christians using them isn't piracy in any conceivable way. They weren't invented by Christians. They describe feelings everyone has. Now, Christians have invented special meanings for them that essentially turn them into codewords for more specific meanings. Non-Christians aren't speaking the special Christian code when they say 'faith', hope', or 'love'. Apparently you indicate you're using the code by capitalizing the words.

It's breathtakingly arrogant and insulting to even entertain the notion that people who don't share your religion don't have the same range of emotions as you. 'Faith' as in 'trust'? How dare you suggest we don't feel that? Hope, cherishing a feeling that something we desire to happen will? How could a person with a scrap of empathy think for a moment that's not something every human who isn't severely mentally handicapped feels? And yes, love is not just an emotion, it's also an ideal. An ideal you give lip-service to, but which I've never seen you even try to live up to.

That's gut, not textbook.
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Messages In This Thread
Faith, Hope & Love? - by ronedee - August 20, 2013 at 11:20 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Foxaèr - August 20, 2013 at 11:36 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by ronedee - August 20, 2013 at 11:38 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Anomalocaris - August 21, 2013 at 2:00 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by tokutter - August 22, 2013 at 11:00 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Captain Colostomy - August 20, 2013 at 11:50 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Minimalist - August 20, 2013 at 11:54 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Whateverist - August 20, 2013 at 11:55 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Rayaan - August 21, 2013 at 12:16 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by FallentoReason - August 21, 2013 at 12:57 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by genkaus - August 21, 2013 at 1:39 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Walking Void - August 21, 2013 at 1:56 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by KichigaiNeko - August 21, 2013 at 4:58 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by KichigaiNeko - August 21, 2013 at 5:40 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Faith No More - August 21, 2013 at 9:03 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Whateverist - August 21, 2013 at 11:23 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Tonus - August 21, 2013 at 9:14 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Walking Void - August 21, 2013 at 11:26 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Whateverist - August 21, 2013 at 1:15 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Mister Agenda - August 21, 2013 at 11:45 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by ronedee - August 21, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Something completely different - August 21, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Mister Agenda - August 21, 2013 at 1:24 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Whateverist - August 21, 2013 at 2:47 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Mister Agenda - August 22, 2013 at 1:55 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Whateverist - August 22, 2013 at 9:10 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by ronedee - August 21, 2013 at 10:28 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Esquilax - August 22, 2013 at 12:10 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Angrboda - August 22, 2013 at 12:56 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by ronedee - August 22, 2013 at 10:30 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Psykhronic - August 22, 2013 at 10:47 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Bad Wolf - August 22, 2013 at 10:52 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Esquilax - August 22, 2013 at 10:56 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by gall - August 22, 2013 at 12:02 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Tonus - August 22, 2013 at 12:54 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Faith No More - August 22, 2013 at 2:16 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Mister Agenda - August 22, 2013 at 2:21 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Ryantology - August 22, 2013 at 11:36 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by ronedee - August 23, 2013 at 1:20 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Ryantology - August 23, 2013 at 1:47 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by ronedee - August 23, 2013 at 12:05 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Mister Agenda - August 23, 2013 at 4:28 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by ronedee - August 24, 2013 at 11:01 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Ryantology - August 25, 2013 at 5:02 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Mister Agenda - August 26, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by freedomfromforum - August 21, 2013 at 2:45 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by freedomfromforum - August 21, 2013 at 2:49 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Captain Colostomy - August 21, 2013 at 11:01 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Ryantology - August 21, 2013 at 11:07 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by max-greece - August 22, 2013 at 2:05 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Captain Colostomy - August 22, 2013 at 2:17 am
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by ITChick - August 22, 2013 at 2:53 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Bad Wolf - August 23, 2013 at 12:09 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Esquilax - August 23, 2013 at 12:10 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by ronedee - August 23, 2013 at 12:36 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Minimalist - August 23, 2013 at 12:40 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by ronedee - August 23, 2013 at 12:54 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Bad Wolf - August 23, 2013 at 2:47 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by ronedee - August 23, 2013 at 3:04 pm
RE: Faith, Hope & Love? - by Anomalocaris - August 25, 2013 at 1:56 am

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