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Definition of Atheism
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RE: Definition of Atheism
(July 4, 2014 at 12:37 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: \
Yes, who would have thought telling people they're not what they say they are no matter the objections they raise would be met with anything other than cool, dispassionate responses?

Didn't say that, blatant straw man.


Quote:You seem to be emphasizing that you have no evidence to support your claim and that it is up to us to prove you wrong. I'm getting to the point where I wonder why I expect better from you.

I wonder why I expected better of you. Lemme ask you, how do you know what any word means? Based on your experience with how it's used.

(July 4, 2014 at 4:07 am)MindForgedManacle Wrote: You should know what constitutes a good argument already, but you don't let that stop you from posting.

I see you're using your own advice. By all means continue to.

(July 4, 2014 at 4:07 am)MindForgedManacle Wrote: Occasionally.

Now, WHY do you have to do that? Clearly, it's not because they already know that atheism is just a lack of belief.

(July 4, 2014 at 4:07 am)MindForgedManacle Wrote: People usually mean 'educated guess' when they say 'theory', and try to tell me 'evolution is only a theory'. Am I to bow to 'what people usually mean by the word' or explain why their statement is invalid?

Now you're equivocating along with those people. Theory DOES mean an educated guess in ordinary parlance. The definition of theory used in academia is different.

Quote:Additional unsubstantiated claims don't make your original claim less unsubstantiated.

No problem, here:

Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy Wrote:‘Atheism’ means the negation of theism, the denial of the existence of God....

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/

Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy Wrote:"Atheism is the view that there is no God."

[...]

"It has come to be widely accepted that to be an atheist is to affirm the non-existence of God."

[...]

"So negative atheism would includes someone who has never reflected on the question of whether or not God exists and has no opinion about the matter and someone who had thought about the matter a great deal and has concluded either that she has insufficient evidence to decide the question, or that the question cannot be resolved in principle. Agnosticism is traditionally characterized as neither believing that God exists nor believing that God does not exist."

(though I would argue that 'negative atheism' is just another word for either an agnostic. In fact, it was Antony Flew who started doing this and even he admits he was making an argument in an attempt to move people away from the usual definitions of these words).
http://www.iep.utm.edu/atheism/#H1


Quote:In the interest of your phone limitations, I will stop at this point, but it's also not true that you had to make your OP so long.

In the interest of not being misrepresented and fully expressing what my problems were, I think I did. It was a little easier to do that from a desktop computer though.
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Definition of Atheism - by MindForgedManacle - July 4, 2014 at 4:07 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Confused Ape - July 4, 2014 at 4:14 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by MindForgedManacle - July 4, 2014 at 4:17 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Confused Ape - July 4, 2014 at 4:24 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by MindForgedManacle - July 4, 2014 at 4:31 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by ignoramus - July 4, 2014 at 5:41 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Whateverist - July 4, 2014 at 9:01 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Ben Davis - July 4, 2014 at 7:14 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Grandizer - July 4, 2014 at 7:20 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 8:17 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Grandizer - July 4, 2014 at 8:24 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by pocaracas - July 4, 2014 at 8:49 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by MindForgedManacle - July 4, 2014 at 10:01 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Cato - July 4, 2014 at 10:25 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by MindForgedManacle - July 4, 2014 at 10:50 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by eyemixer - July 4, 2014 at 11:54 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Mister Agenda - July 4, 2014 at 12:37 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by MindForgedManacle - July 4, 2014 at 1:11 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by SkepticismFirst - July 4, 2014 at 2:09 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Confused Ape - July 4, 2014 at 3:08 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by SkepticismFirst - July 4, 2014 at 3:12 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Confused Ape - July 4, 2014 at 3:20 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by SkepticismFirst - July 4, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Confused Ape - July 4, 2014 at 3:55 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Mister Agenda - July 5, 2014 at 10:54 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Whateverist - July 5, 2014 at 1:24 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Whateverist - July 4, 2014 at 4:54 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Welsh cake - July 4, 2014 at 2:24 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by MindForgedManacle - July 4, 2014 at 3:27 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Confused Ape - July 4, 2014 at 3:43 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by MindForgedManacle - July 4, 2014 at 4:06 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Mister Agenda - July 5, 2014 at 11:37 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Thumpalumpacus - July 6, 2014 at 8:21 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Dystopia - July 6, 2014 at 9:07 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Mister Agenda - July 7, 2014 at 12:28 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by pocaracas - July 4, 2014 at 4:16 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by MindForgedManacle - July 4, 2014 at 4:21 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by pocaracas - July 4, 2014 at 4:55 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Simon Moon - July 4, 2014 at 5:27 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - July 4, 2014 at 4:58 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by MindForgedManacle - July 4, 2014 at 5:44 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by pocaracas - July 4, 2014 at 6:14 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Angrboda - July 4, 2014 at 6:39 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Whateverist - July 4, 2014 at 6:44 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by MindForgedManacle - July 4, 2014 at 7:56 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Confused Ape - July 5, 2014 at 4:28 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Grandizer - July 5, 2014 at 4:34 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Dystopia - July 5, 2014 at 9:33 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Grandizer - July 5, 2014 at 10:10 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Thumpalumpacus - July 5, 2014 at 9:03 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by ignoramus - July 5, 2014 at 9:39 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by vorlon13 - July 5, 2014 at 11:18 am
RE: Definition of Atheism - by vorlon13 - July 5, 2014 at 12:02 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by MindForgedManacle - July 5, 2014 at 6:33 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Mister Agenda - July 7, 2014 at 12:08 pm
RE: Definition of Atheism - by Whateverist - July 7, 2014 at 12:26 pm

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