RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 16, 2014 at 6:52 pm
(This post was last modified: September 16, 2014 at 7:11 pm by Chas.)
(September 16, 2014 at 12:06 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(September 15, 2014 at 4:56 pm)Chas Wrote: This is exactly what the believers in other woo say. "You can't see it if you don't believe".
You delusion is overwhelmingly strong.
obviously you never bothered reading my other posts, even science acknowledges healing can occur based on belief, otherwise known as the "placebo effect".
I already posted the article from the Scientific American...go read it.
I have read your posts and the article, so you get yet another thing wrong.
You make unsubstantiated assumptions; that won't gain you any credibility here.
(September 16, 2014 at 3:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Being unable to be explained scientifically is the very definition of supernatural.
But you haven't shown that it can't be explained by science, only that we haven't yet explained it.
Your conclusion that "therefore supernatural" is premature - it does not follow.
(September 16, 2014 at 3:06 pm)C4RM5 Wrote:(September 16, 2014 at 2:47 pm)ShaMan Wrote: Because you said you're still growing and learning. Growth often includes change.
(emphasis added)
I mean why would I give up my religion.
Why? What about evidence that you are wrong? If you deny that, then you are closed-minded.
(September 16, 2014 at 3:13 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:(September 16, 2014 at 3:12 pm)ShaMan Wrote: Because you're probably a fine person without it. I was a christian for many years. Now that I'm no longer a christian, I'm a much kinder, more patient, and more genuinely sincere person than I ever had any hope of becoming as a christian. Christianity discourages growth in favor of tradition. Growth is where real transformation happens.
Even if you do hate me for being a non-bacon sandwich lover..
I certainly didn't hate you until I read this.
(September 16, 2014 at 3:20 pm)C4RM5 Wrote:(September 16, 2014 at 3:17 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: What about ShaMan though? He has had a better life since he stopped following Christ. Do..you think he's lying?
The simple answer is he was never a follower in the first place, he may not be lying. All I am saying is he must not of truely followed christ.
Oh, goody, the "No True Scotsman" fallacy.
You are certainly racking up the ignorant Christian points.
(September 16, 2014 at 3:34 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: By if God was being fair we would all be going to Hell. Instead God offers eternal lfe for nothing, so I praise and thank him everyday for it.
That is totally demented. You believe, for no good reason, based on no knowledge that you could not possibly have, that we are all sinners and deserve hell.
You religion is perverted.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
Science is not a subject, but a method.