Abortion not allowed

[Jenny A]

Okay here you are,
Psalm 139:13-16
Genesis 1:27
Luke 18:16
Jeremiah 1:5
Exodus 21:22
Galatians 1:15

Nope these don't fly:

In Psalm 139 the poet celebrates that God made him in the womb: "thou didst knit me together in my mother’s womb." It does not say that "I was a person before birth." We know humans form in the womb.

Genesis 1:27 is rather famous but it has nothing to do with fetuses whatsoever: "So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. "

Luke 18:16 Another well known verse: "But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God." Yeah Jesus says he likes kids. Where's the fetus part?

Jeremiah 1:5 is the first one that comes even remotely close. It says that god, who is omniscient chose Jeremiah as his prophet before Jeremiah was conceived: “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.” That says to me that god is supposed to know who will be born before they are conceived. It does not say that they are people for purposes of thou shalt not kill before they are born.

Galatians 1:15 "But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and had called me through his grace, 16 was pleased to reveal his Son to[c] me, in order that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not confer with flesh and blood, 17 nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me, but I went away into Arabia; and again I returned to Damascus."

This is Paul talking about how god chose him before he was born. It's just like Jeremiah in this and has nothing to do with whether fetus's are persons.

Wait a minute! This one says that god does not consider fetuses people. But you do have to read the verse in context. It's one I cited in my post above:

Exodus 21:22-24 "If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe."

From it we learn: 1) It's wrong to hit a woman hard enough to cause her to miscarry and that those who do so should compensate the woman's husband for the loss of the fetus with money (hard to disagree with that except that it's the woman who ought to be compensated don't you think?); 2) that if you kill a woman you pay with your life; 3) if you permanently injure a woman you should be subject to a similar injury. Notice the big difference between how god treats the two cases. The woman is a person the fetus is not.