Eternal punishment is pointless.

[Drich]

If you want to talk about the God of the Bible or the Hell of the bible then it is to the bible we must turn to for reference.

Or the older mythology it is based on.

By the way, the Catholic doctrine also has abolished the eternal fire part.

The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs.

I hope that is not a quote from what the Catholics believe.

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Not my thread sport.

I was simply speaking to the OP.

If you dont want to read about lex or vader then maybe you should stay away from threads that speak about which ever lex or vader puts you in a tail spin.

I will speak to whatever I want.

You are the one with the god claim. You are the one who believes in a heaven and hell, not me. You are reacting to to my criticisms of the concepts of such things. Wouldn't be too hard to quell those with that pesky think called "evidence", that neither you or anyone in human history have.

The Ancient Egyptians had a concept of an afterlife too, but you rightfully reject that myth that is now dead. You simply do not like me making the parallels.

One could start a brand new religion and make new claims about a reward/punishment motif, and market it to gullible people and have it grow to be believed to be true. Mormons have their own hokey afterlife claims too. Do you believe you are going to get your own planet after you die? Do you believe that Joseph Smith is going to sit next to Jesus and judge you after you die? Do you believe that Osirus and Horus are going to judge you after you die?

No? Good, I would hope you do rightfully reject those absurd claims. Now exactly how is your desire for a utopia after you die, and the promise of reward after you die, any more real than the other utopia motifs claimed in human history any more real?

What would be so frightening about accepting your finite existence? Is your pre birth non existence frightening? You are not frightened by a pre birth Allah existence. You are not frightened by pre Karma prior lives some claim. So exactly why should I be frightened by your claims of hell that you think are true?

Do you really want me to take the time to examine and break down your arguement or are you just looking for the last word here?

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The Absents of God is the defination of Hell.

So basically it will be like living on Earth because I sure haven't seen any sky daddy in the 45 years I've been alive.

If you were blind does it mean color and light does not exist? If you were def does it mean sound or better yet music can not exist? How narrow must a mind be to define the whole universe, and speak from a position of absolute certainty just by what it has experiences over the course of a few decades..

Being on earth is being in the presents of creation or in turn the presents of God. Just because you are blind and def to Him does not mean He is not here.