RE: Rape in the Bible
December 3, 2014 at 1:37 pm
(This post was last modified: December 3, 2014 at 1:38 pm by Nope.)
(December 3, 2014 at 9:57 am)alpha male Wrote:(December 3, 2014 at 9:35 am)Nope Wrote: Question for you, alpha male. I know that some individuals do not believe in marital rape. They believe that marriage equals continual consent of the spouses for sex. (hopefully, that made sense) Do you believe that someone can be raped by their spouse?Yes, forcible sex on a spouse is IMO rape. Historically, that is a relatively recent position. However, I do note differences between married and unmarried people. For example, IMO a woman can't give consent if she's drunk. So, for unmarried people, sex with a drunk woman is rape. However, I think that standard should be different for married people. IMO, if you're married, consent should be presumed unless specifically retracted.
What do you think? Should a married man refrain from sex if his wife is drunk, even if she's asking for sex? Technically, she can't consent.
There are several issues in your post that you tried to combine into one point. At what point a person becomes too drunk to be able to give consent is a separate issue from whether there is such a thing as marital rape.
For the basis of our current laws, it doesn't matter that our ancestors didn't believe that marital rape existed. If we based our society around what people did in the past, we would still have slavery and torture.
We own our own bodies. Humans do not give up the right to their bodies because they married. If a man or woman has sex with someone without that person's consent that is rape. It doesn't matter if the attacker physically forced the person or had sex with them while they were unconscious. It is still rape.
I would not want my children to marry someone that doesn't know the difference between rape and consensual sex.