the case against the case against god

[Mystic]

Atheists from my experience don't take into consideration that the proof maybe inside of them and all they have to do is reflect over it. They've already decided it must be by empirical evidence or proven by a logical argument.

The subconscious mind can accept pretty much any premise, and thereby influence our thoughts and actions. Remember that many atheists were once theists, and were convinced that they could experience the spiritual world in some way or another. There are any number of ways to interpret the things we perceive. Some regard it as having to do with our soul, others point at mysticism, others at intuition. The thing is, when we strip away the selection bias and take a more analytical approach, we find that those experiences are more consistent with natural phenomena than with whatever we substitute as a placeholder. And as we learn more and more about how the human mind works, we are finding more and more natural explanations for such phenomena.

If we take a more scientific approach, sure, it might not seem we have a soul. But who says that must be the approach we take? It seems it is as I said, you are ruling out the experience within and a conclusion of a spiritual nature. You are already concluding they must have an explanation that is natural as opposed to being supernatural. That means no matter how supernatural we appear to be, you will always take those visions of yourself as a natural phenomena. But this is circular reasoning. You should at least concede the possibility of the experience yielding spiritual knowledge. Then decide if you have it or not. I find Atheists rather not concede to this possibility so as to not see any possible rational basis to faith by theists. Tiberius is the only Atheist I've seen that says Theists may know God but he is unaware of it therefore withholds belief regarding God.