RE: Evidence God Exists
March 11, 2010 at 5:06 pm
(This post was last modified: March 12, 2010 at 12:41 pm by AngelThMan.)
(March 10, 2010 at 6:14 pm)AngelThMan Wrote: First and foremost, I would like to define the word evidence.
Welsh cake Wrote:Correction, you don't get to have your own definition of the word 'evidence'...I don't. I provided the dictionary definition of the word, and what I've provided as evidence fits that definition.
Wikipedia Wrote:Evidence in its broadest sense includes everything that is used to determine or demonstrate the truth of an assertion. Giving or procuring evidence is the process of using those things that are either a) presumed to be true, or b) were themselves proven via evidence, to demonstrate an assertion's truth. Evidence is the currency by which one fulfills the burden of proof.This doesn't contradict anything I've provided.
AngelThMan Wrote:I will always speak to you in a civil manner. Atheists, who pride themselves as being intellectually superior to believers, should be able to provide intelligent arguments without profanity and name-calling. Light bantering and snide comments are okay; sometimes that’s part of the fun. But any disrespectful responses will be immediately ignored, regardless of how intelligent your point is.
Atheists love to use the word ‘refuted’ a lot. Just because you say my argument has been refuted doesn’t mean it has been. I warn you that I am a tough cookie, and I’ll likely have an answer for just about anything you post. So if you’re easily frustrated, perhaps you should not participate in this discussion.
Welsh cake Wrote:A word of advice: making these assertions you are clearly "civil mannered" and all atheists are douchebags is pointless, arrogant and utterly irrelevant to your argument.I never said all atheists are douchebags. That's your invention. But many times I've been answered with profanity and name-calling, and it is my right to choose who I want to or don't want to communicate with.
Welsh cake Wrote:If atheists expose the weaknesses in your reasoning, then be intellectually honest and acknowledge those point(s) made! If people are continually refuting your premises for a god then it's wise to pay attention to them and try to understand why your argument is being called out as "invalid" first.You're being naive if you think that someone who has strong convictions about their beliefs is going to succumb so easily. I've never expected that of atheists. I haven't heard anything that refutes any of my arguments here. All I've gotten is denial that our species is superior. I've mentioned that our intelligence is unique, and people bring up that dolphins have sex for pleasure, and that ants build lairs underground. It might be your opinion that these points render my arguments invalid, but it isn't mine. You're falling into the trap of thinking that just because you believe something, someone else has to believe it, too, which is what atheists constantly accuse believers of doing. Just because you agree with an atheist's point of view doesn't mean that the argument they provide is strong. I am open to ideas, but only if people stop denying that our intelligence is special and unique, and then 'convincingly' explain how we are the only species that evolved this way.
Welsh cake Wrote:Don't ignore intelligent and constructive responses people here give you, no matter how 'disrespectful' you may find them to be!Wrong! Any disrespectful replies will not be considered. I have a choice, and that's what I choose.
Welsh cake Wrote:Go back and read up on what evolutionary theory actually is first, because you clearly don't understand that Evolution is not a ladder.I understand evolution. Trust me. I never said evolution is a ladder. What I alluded to is that other species would have benefit from our brand of intelligence, and yet none developed it.
Welsh cake Wrote:Also, cognitive faculties and creativity are not regarded as evidence of god(s) existing in reality.I claim that God meant for only humans to bear this kind of intelligence.
AngelThMan Wrote:Yes it is, and for several reasons. For one thing it corroborates what’s written in the bible, which is that God created man in his image, and that animals are inferior.
Welsh cake Wrote:Not so fast. Where does the creationist's beloved story of Adam and Eve fit into God's plan if you regard evolution as one of the best explanations on the diversity of living organisms on this planet? You do realize that you can't have both as valid working theories when they're incompatible?Have you ever heard of Theistic Evolution? Read up on it.