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The argument of "chance"
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 23, 2015 at 6:25 pm
(February 23, 2015 at 8:15 am)Wiggy Wrote: The difference is that Islamic terrorists think they are dying for the truth. The authors who wrote the new testament died for their eyewitness testimony.

So, even though the vast majority of historians in the world do not know who wrote most of the NT, you do, and you even know what happened to them after?

You should publish your findings so you can clear a lot of things up.

Quote:What I was trying to say is that no one dies for a lie if they know its a lie. This is strong evidence for the bible and fulfilled prophecies by Jesus from the old testament. You can twist your testicles into a pretzel to explain this away.

"I hear that claim a lot, but having read every Christian source from the first five hundred years of Christianity, I’d like him [William Lane Craig] to tell us what the piece of evidence is that the disciples died for their belief in the resurrection." Bart Ehrman.

As far as the so called prophecies go, they are either self fulfilled, misinterpretations, about a current (to the OT) event, or exaggeration.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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The argument of "chance" - by xr34p3rx - February 21, 2015 at 12:55 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Pizza - February 21, 2015 at 2:08 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by xr34p3rx - February 21, 2015 at 2:35 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Norman Humann - February 21, 2015 at 4:39 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Tonus - February 21, 2015 at 9:43 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by The Reality Salesman - February 21, 2015 at 7:05 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by dyresand - February 23, 2015 at 7:49 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Lucanus - February 21, 2015 at 2:42 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 21, 2015 at 2:43 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Neo-Scholastic - February 21, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 21, 2015 at 1:19 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Norman Humann - February 21, 2015 at 1:21 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Neo-Scholastic - February 21, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 21, 2015 at 1:50 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Neo-Scholastic - February 21, 2015 at 2:25 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 21, 2015 at 2:30 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Homeless Nutter - February 21, 2015 at 6:50 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Lucanus - February 21, 2015 at 3:02 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 21, 2015 at 3:30 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Alex K - February 21, 2015 at 4:20 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 21, 2015 at 4:42 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Alex K - February 21, 2015 at 5:17 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 21, 2015 at 5:52 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Dystopia - February 21, 2015 at 11:54 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Pizza - February 21, 2015 at 12:11 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 21, 2015 at 12:11 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 21, 2015 at 1:21 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 21, 2015 at 1:39 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 21, 2015 at 3:06 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Tonus - February 21, 2015 at 3:12 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Wiggy - February 21, 2015 at 9:01 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 21, 2015 at 9:37 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by veoli - February 23, 2015 at 9:15 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 23, 2015 at 9:38 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by abaris - February 23, 2015 at 9:41 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Thumpalumpacus - February 23, 2015 at 10:35 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 21, 2015 at 9:05 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by IATIA - February 21, 2015 at 9:05 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Wiggy - February 21, 2015 at 9:12 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by rexbeccarox - February 21, 2015 at 9:13 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by rexbeccarox - February 22, 2015 at 2:49 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 22, 2015 at 2:52 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by The Reality Salesman - February 23, 2015 at 6:45 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by IATIA - February 21, 2015 at 9:18 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by xr34p3rx - February 22, 2015 at 12:23 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by The Reality Salesman - February 22, 2015 at 12:40 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by bennyboy - February 22, 2015 at 2:16 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by JesusHChrist - February 23, 2015 at 12:16 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Norman Humann - February 23, 2015 at 3:22 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Neo-Scholastic - February 22, 2015 at 8:29 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by The Reality Salesman - February 22, 2015 at 8:44 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by bennyboy - February 22, 2015 at 11:05 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 21, 2015 at 9:21 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Wiggy - February 21, 2015 at 9:41 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 21, 2015 at 9:45 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by The Reality Salesman - February 21, 2015 at 10:21 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Wiggy - February 23, 2015 at 8:15 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Alex K - February 23, 2015 at 8:23 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 23, 2015 at 11:24 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Pizza - February 23, 2015 at 4:18 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Simon Moon - February 23, 2015 at 6:25 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Tonus - February 21, 2015 at 10:28 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Grandizer - February 21, 2015 at 11:45 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Brakeman - February 22, 2015 at 12:11 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Thumpalumpacus - February 23, 2015 at 6:25 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by rexbeccarox - February 23, 2015 at 6:41 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Thumpalumpacus - February 23, 2015 at 7:36 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by IATIA - February 21, 2015 at 11:51 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by TheRealJoeFish - February 22, 2015 at 12:53 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by The Reality Salesman - February 22, 2015 at 1:17 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 22, 2015 at 2:51 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Tonus - February 22, 2015 at 8:57 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 22, 2015 at 12:37 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Ravenshire - February 23, 2015 at 11:08 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by dyresand - February 24, 2015 at 12:21 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 23, 2015 at 8:39 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by ManMachine - February 23, 2015 at 8:40 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 23, 2015 at 8:52 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 23, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Thumpalumpacus - February 23, 2015 at 5:26 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by The Valkyrie - February 23, 2015 at 9:20 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by dyresand - February 23, 2015 at 9:33 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by JesusHChrist - February 23, 2015 at 9:49 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 23, 2015 at 10:19 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Dystopia - February 23, 2015 at 10:56 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Thumpalumpacus - February 24, 2015 at 3:21 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by The Reality Salesman - February 24, 2015 at 12:40 pm

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