Easy arguments against the Bible, and religion as a whole

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sorry, it had taken so long for you to respond i thought you didn't.

Oh really? I'd love for you to argue that with police, rape victims, judges, lawyers, feminists, and generally anyone that knows anything about the crime, the victims, and the sorts of people that perpetrate the crime.
I think they'd get a kick out of that arguement.

well, we don't need a judge let's look at the science. what's a reflex? it's an autimatic response like when you touch the back of your mouth and you gag. when someone comes up behind you and touch you when you don't relize they're there you jump. these responses can't be helped and the fact that they don't work in a court of law doesn't make them not true.

If you don't agree with my assertion about your statement above, I suggest you reread it to yourself once to try to get a grasp of your own words and really understand what you're saying in the context of a human man with a knife and a lust that cannot be abided targets a woman, wraps his hand around her mouth and his knife under her neck and tells her "scream and you're dead".

assuming the woman is alone, out of sight of everyone in the first place. this isn't the movies where women commonly walk the dark alleyways at night. women are always escorted by a man at night. if they're not married it would be their father, or possibly their brother. now you have to make up a senerio where 2 men sneek behind both of them. one killing the man and the other doing as you described. ya, ok sure.... we could do this all day but the point is it didn't happen that often.

"Some slaves have rights/good masters/whatever"

no not some, try ALL. those laws of slavery apply to all slaves not some.

Further, the bible doesn't agree with any of your (not-backed) assertions about slavery being akin to 'having a job' at all - in context or out. My points HAVE biblical backing and I've quoted them and attempted to put them in as much context as the appropriate chapters in the bible allow.

i have too

39 ‘And if one of your brethren who dwells by you becomes poor, and sells himself to you, you shall not compel him to serve as a slave. 40 As a hired servant and a sojourner he shall be with you, and shall serve you until the Year of Jubilee.

as a HIRED servant. gee, sounds like a job to me.

First of all, you haven't refuted a damn thing. I rebutted Leviticus 25 some time ago and you've failed to do anything other than repeat your arguement and ignore my response.
All of the biblical passages I've been using prove the following:
1) Slavery is standard practice
2) There are rules for the treatement, selling, and buying of slaves
2A) Those rules tend to involve not selling your family or countrymen but instead taking foreign neighbors or if you do to treat them better than slaves who are not family or countrymen
2B) Those rules tend to involve not killing or maiming your slave, but those rules only apply in certain circumstances and to very specific body parts
3) Slaves are to do what they are told. Period.

yes it is a standard practice. the bible acknowledges it but it does not condone it just as it does not condone drinking even though it does not call it wrong (though getting drunk is pointed out as wrong). there were rules to ensure slaves weren't mistreated AS I'VE STATED MANY TIMES! no, it does not condone killing them of any sort. it says that and i think we can also apply the 6th commandment to this. yes, slaves had to obey their masters, but masters DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO ORDER THEIR SLAVES TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT!!!! i've also stated this many times.

Yeah, I read that some time ago.

Leviticus 25:45 Wrote:And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour

yes, but there's more than one place

52 And if there remain but a few years until the Year of Jubilee, then he shall reckon with him, and according to his years he shall repay him the price of his redemption. 53 He shall be with him as a yearly hired servant, and he shall not rule with rigor over him in your sight.

they apply to all slaves.

Slavery doesn't become moral just because the slave is treated well or even if the slave is ignorant to his slavery.

i am not speaking in the case of ignorance. i am speaking in the case when those who can't or don't want to support themselves perfer slavery.

There is so much literature both from history and fiction from just about every perspective imaginable that states slavery to be as such that I couldn't even begin to describe to you the magnitude of how wrong you are on this point.

again, you speak of slavery of the worst kind. if slavery of the African Americans never took place, we would have a very different outlook on slavery.

America and a modern day child sex slave that is bought and sold in secret across any national border will tell you that being treated well doesn't make them any less of a slave nor slavery any more or less moral for 'having rules' or 'good treatment.'

we are not talking about sex slavery. that is most definately wrong and the bible does not condone it. the bible only condones post marital sex.