RE: Easy arguments against the Bible, and religion as a whole
January 1, 2012 at 11:31 pm
(This post was last modified: January 1, 2012 at 11:37 pm by TheDarkestOfAngels.)
(January 1, 2012 at 11:11 pm)chipan Wrote: let's look at some US federal laws then shall we?Unlike the Bible, US law makes room for 'technical' rape and perhaps the worst sort of rape you could imagine within the law - allowing sentencing to have a wide range of values depenidng upon the nature of the crime.
a minor 12-16 years old at least 4 years younger than the person found guilty of this which is classified as "Sexual abuse of a minor or ward" can get anything from a fine to 15 years imprisonment.
other forms of sexual abuse (law does not use the word rape) can be anywhere from a fine to life in prison. how is this better? someone can get off with a fine or 5 years for rape.
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http://students.haverford.edu/masar/docu...peLaws.pdf
For example, in a state where the age of consent is 16, if a 20 year-old has consentual sex with a 15 year old, the older individual might get a fine and might not get his name on the sex offender registry.
If multiple pre-teen girls are gang-raped by several dozen men (perhaps a group working together) and then brutally murdered each of those individuals may get a range of sentences up to and including life in prison depending on a number of factors.
It's more fair because it allows the law to consider circumstances and doesn't unnecessarily punish the victim. It's a far more just system than stoning the victim to death for not screaming for help in a city.
(January 1, 2012 at 11:11 pm)chipan Wrote: the thing that makes black slavery different from others is b/c they weren't thought of as human. they were thought of as less than human. this is the main reason why it was so bad. they were taken as slaves b/c of the color of their skin. yes, other slavery took place that rivals this kind but none as abundant. that kind of slavery still exists today, though it's very rare.No, Chip. It's not different at all. Before it was blacks, it was native americans in the US along with indentured servants from Europe. In Europe, there was all kinds of slavery from the surrounding nations and probably far more than I care to mention.
American slavery and treatment of black people is not unique at all.
If you need proof, feel free to do a cursory google search on the history of slavery. It's a rich topic. Go nuts.
(January 1, 2012 at 11:11 pm)chipan Wrote: there wasn't? come on you really think that? you really think when someone said you can play go play video games but not all day that they're encouraging it?The main distinction between regular slavery and sex slavery is that one is general purpose and one is slavery for a specific purpose.
There's oodles of historical incidences both recent and otherwise of masters getting knocked up by and knocking up with their slaves.
A famous example is Thomas Jefferson, whose black children have been quite prolific since they were discovered to be his descendants.
Given that they were slaves, I have no idea how prolific rape is vs. consentual intercourse. It's very difficult to know how prolific intercourse is between slave and master - not to mention that records of such incidences are almost non-existent.
In my most pessimistic imaginings, I would imagine that it's not uncommon.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan