Atheism the unscientific belief (part one, two, and three)

[Little Rik]

Rik, on the off chance you're for real and not a poe, could you please reply to this post?

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Ok, I had the masochism to open that link.
First off, I have to say that it does not look like a reliable website. They are trying to sell you something: meditation courses. So we're off to a bad start, with what amounts to a promotional website for somebody's business. My skeptic senses are tingling, but I'm still curious. I think I'll dissect this thing like a frog.

Let's begin:


Define "science". Science is a method of hypothesis and testing that wasn't "invented" until Galileo came along. Does Tantra follow the scientific method? At a first glance, it doesn't look like that. If it does not follow the scientific method, then it's not science. And if it's not science, it's likely to be woo that someone's trying to sell you.


Citation needed, please. This could be a whole load of bull. Is there evidence that any of this actually happened? Is there evidence that this guy actually existed and it's not a myth? No citations of scholarly historical research can be found in that website, which just proves my point that they are only trying to sell you something and they don't want you to think too critically about it.


This does not look like science to me. Science is a work of cooperation, where many people test their (often conflicting) ideas in order to get to the truth. This is just a guy (whose existence can be doubted, as there are no citations to support such a claim) who's spouting a lot of stuff without rigorously demonstrating anything. Everything he says is accepted acritically and presented as wisdom. This, my friend, is not science. This is an appeal to authority, and it's the most unscientific thing one could possibly do.

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The pineal gland produces melatonine. It does it all the time, not "once a month" and it's a hormone that is still being studied, as not much is known about it yet. But one thing it doesn't do, is secrete a fluid that can be tasted, because it's an endocrine gland. So oopsie, that is bullshit.


So this guy discovered how to avoid cold turkey when you're trying to quit something. As it's not intuitive enough

But look at how they word all of this. "The science of breath control, Pranayama" is not a science. It may be a traditional technique and it may even work, but it's not scientific because it does not explain anything, or worse, the explanations proposed are just plain wrong, as was the case with the pineal gland before. Controlling the frequency at which you breathe can and indeed does calm you, but it happens because of the changes in the nervous system's chemistry that follow it.


This basically means to live in an echo chamber.

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First off, there is no proof of a supreme consciousness. That leaves a big hole in all of this. Second, if the "spiritual energy of the human being" resides at the base of the spine, and then reaches the pineal gland (in ways unknown, btw) it would be pretty easy to register its activity in some way, wouldn't it? And yet, instead of proof, we just get a bunch of woo woo.

This site is trying to make a fool out of you. It masks the traditional methods it is trying to sell with science-y language but doesn't actually explain how the stuff it's describing works, nor does it cite any reliable sources. These people are predators, trying to feed on the scientific ignorance of others. The stuff they sell you may work, but that doesn't mean that it is right. I'm telling you as a friend, Rik. Don't fall for this shit. Look for the truth and never take anything for granted.

I agree that all this appear like rubbish to someone who relate everything to a science that deal
with the physical world.
Unfortunately for you your idea of man as an entity made only of physicality does not exist.
Man is a lot more than a physical entity therefore he also need something else that is not
physical.
To me what is important is not whether Shiva existed or not although i believe he did exist.
What i value most is whether these teaching are working or not in the sense that they give result.
And guess what Luc?
They do work.