RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
October 16, 2015 at 11:54 am
(This post was last modified: October 16, 2015 at 12:01 pm by jenny1972.)
(October 16, 2015 at 3:07 am)robvalue Wrote: Jenny:
You still haven't defined what "god" is. You demand that science study something, and yet you can't even tell us what exactly it is you want them to study. I have no idea what you mean by "god", and I can only conclude that you don't either, besides some vague notion.
I'd like to know how exactly you propose god should be studied. The default position to any event is that we don't know what happened. We then follow the evidence and try and form a reasonable conclusion. The default position is not "whatever someone wants the explanation to be" and then everyone has to prove them wrong. That is employing the argument from ignorance, which I talk about in detail on my site here. If something is unexplained, then it is unexplained. That isn't a license for people to make up vague explanations like "god did it". What does that even mean? How do you distinguish between god doing something and a mega-toad from dimension X doing it? How would the results look any different from our perspective? Until you define god, I can only guess at any of this.
This is how science works If it didn't, science would be comprised of loads of random testimony and unsupported claims, and would contradict itself all the time. Most importantly, science serves to further understanding. What possible use to anyone is "god did this"? It's incredibly vague, does not actually explain anything and is just a roadblock to further investigation. No one is stopping you believing that god did whatever you want to believe he did, but science has rigorous methods, with good reason.
You've admitted, to your credit, that we have no reason to believe you really are receiving thoughts from god because we have no way to verify it. And that is the only evidence you have presented for this god even existing.
well i cant define God i know very very little the human mind is not capable of understanding God we are not even capable of conceiving of other dimensions that einstein has talked about so how can we conceive of God . religions say he is an old man in the sky i dont put God in such a limited box . I dont need to understand everything to believe i accept my limitations as a human and im just content with some knowledge that is beyond my own limited mind and am happy with that . i cannot provide any evidence only God can provide that evidence for you i dont think you would even be convinced by a scientist honestly if you reject the idea completely that God exists . im not a scientist so i dont know what scientific technology exists maybe someday it will advance to the point where the mind can be mapped and studies by a machine and incoming thoughts can be identified but again results will be contested by those who do not believe and refuse the idea .
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain
The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain