(February 28, 2016 at 11:16 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(February 28, 2016 at 10:34 am)Little Rik Wrote: Wrong again yog.
As usual you jump to conclusion without taking in consideration all points.
1) You don't take in consideration that low form of lives are mainly driven by mother nature.
In science this occurrence is better known as instinct.
I say mainly because in some plants like climbers and in some animals also the free will start to wake up.
Nothing however as the free will in humans.
Humans on the other hand have mainly free will and instinct play a smaller part.
That means that man (both sex of course) can evolve thanks to his own effort and at the same time can loose his consciousness (devolution) according to his own free will.
Lower form of life however tend to go along together as instinct drive them or better say force them
to follow a certain path so there are not big evolutionary differences until they merge into human life.
This has nothing to do with the point I made about your equivocation of the term evolution and your mistaking biological evolution as being something that happens to individuals. You can claim that I am wrong all the doo dah day and at the end of it all, you are still the one who is making a mistake.
(February 28, 2016 at 10:34 am)Little Rik Wrote: 2) Darwin never took in consideration that any form of life always end up there where it fit best
just like a pieces that fit in a jigsaw puzzle game.
Nothing to do with survival.
Consciousness and energy are the two sides of the same coin.
Nothing ever die.
Nothing is ever destroyed.
Life continue.
If that piece can not fit in a particular jigsaw then it will end up in a different one where it can fit
perfectly.
The idea that survival is the thing that trigger evolution is 100% crap.
Form of lives always survive.
You just can not get rid of energy and consciousness.
It is impossible.
It never happen and will never happen.
Here i stop because if i tell you how all started and how all end up your brain could not take it at this stage in time.
This is just more babbling aimed at a strawman of evolution. Again you are confusing the scientific theory of biological evolution with other types of evolution which don't necessarily apply to the species level. In short, you are using the words in an incorrect manner, and knowing or not knowing your 'system' has no effect on my ability to judge that. The theory of biological evolution doesn't say that "survival is the thing that trigger evolution" so your saying that it does say that is pure crap. Nobody gives a rat's ass about your theory of the evolution of consciousness. That's a red herring you brought in because you don't understand how it differs from biological evolution. In short, you've just made a mess filled with strawmen and other fallacies.
I don't usually give free tuition but i will make an exception for you yog. (not to be repeated )
Your obsession with biological evolution that answer all question is absurd.
Biological evolution answer very little if you really want to know how the whole evolution system works.
Physical science that study evolution tell us that we inherited what we got from previous generation but where is the evidence?
This science come to easy conclusion a bit like those people that in the past thought that the planet was flat.
Unfortunately for these people the whole story is quite different.
People inherit absolutely nothing in terms of material-physical-mental qualities.
Life is the evidence of this.
If you want something you got to fight for.
Nothing is given for free so it is absurd that we inherited what we got from previous generation.
Only idiots think so.
But be careful to draw conclusions.
We are made with what our parents give us so in a way we inherited from them but here lie the trick
that confuse people and scientists.
If we would get all our lives for free thanks to our parents and our grandparents before that we would
get something for free but nothing in life come for free so where are we coming from then?
Every bit of life proceed in his journey from small consciousness to big consciousness as individuals.
As individual we fit in a jigsaw puzzle that best suit us in the good or the bad.
Our parents give us life in a way but we already had a life before that and we conquer what we got
previously so all our parents do is to allow us to continue the life we had before.
The conclusion is that we enter this life in that particular jigsaw that reflect our individuality by be born in a particular family.
That doesn't mean that we have anything to do with biological evolution which suppose to give us those
particularities that we have.
We already had these particularity long before we born in this life.
We just enter that evolutionary stage that suit us most.
If you really insist in your dogma that biological evolution give us these particularities then prove it.
Science so far has never proved that so if you succeed in doing so i will cover you in pure 24 carat
gold.