Theists - how certain are you that a God exists?

[ktrap]

First Atheist I found to be consistent.  Either it exists or it doesn't (1 or 0).  Therefore the probability of Alien Life is not any better than the probability for God if you are an atheist.  For me as a theist God exists and Alien Life can exist even if no evidence of it is at hand.   I have more respect for an Atheist who draws conclusions consistently even though I may disagree with them.

No, and this is where you are going wrong. It is not the probability of existence, as this is meaningless. It is the probability GIVEN the evidence we have.

So to compare Gods vs alien life:

For both we have stories of people claiming interacting with them. We have numerous books full of claims. We have peoples testimonies.

However for alien life, we have at least one example of life existing. So we know it can exist. With God we don't even have that.
For sentient life, we only know of one method that produces it - evolution. This process is far from certain to produce sentient life on a planet that has life.
If we had a God sitting here that we could measure, study and understand then, the probability of finding another would start to increase.


This is incredibly basic stuff. Lets take it back to underwater life.
Claim 1: There is an undiscovered type of plant deep under the sea that is undiscovered.
Claim 2: There are mermaids under the sea.

Which do you think has a higher probability of existing, given what we know about life? They aren't the same. (You'll note that there are far more testimonies about mermaids than there are this plant)

 Your conclusions do not make sense.  You state something doesn't exist because it lacks evidence and then say if certain evidence exist what does not exist might exist even though there is lack of evidence.

A) God does not exist because it lacks evidence.
B) Alien Life may exist because Life exists on earth, however, no evidence of Alien Life  

Even with your claim 1 and 2

1) If it is undiscovered it does not exist (even if other plants exist that does mean an undiscovered plant exists)
2) Mermaids exist if you have seen one, if you didn't see one then they don't exist.

You are trying to make A & 2 completely false (God and mermaids don't exist) but try to justify the existence of B & 1 (Alien Life & undiscovered plant) even though it also lacks evidence like A & 2.

I can not understand how you justify your reasoning.  

This is why for me some Atheist arguments do not make sense.  

Cato was correct not to accept God and Alien Life because both lack evidence.  That is being consistent.  Though I totally disagree with his conclusions, because for me God exists and Alien Life can exist even though there is lack of evidence.

Now you might wonder what my reasoning is if there is no evidence.

Theists are able to infer something can exist based on certain evidence.

Why? because theists are not subjected to a true/false logic.   

For example, for me as a theist, based on the complexity of life and universe, I draw the following conclusion, it must require an intelligent being to do this (God) and therefore God must exist in order for life and this universe to exist.  

But is God created? No, God is the first cause.  Well how is that possible?  It's possible because one of God's attributes is infinity (an infinite being) and infinity has no beginning and no end, therefore God is the first cause.