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Theists - how certain are you that a God exists?
RE: Theists - how certain are you that a God exists?
(July 31, 2015 at 7:01 pm)ktrap Wrote: But is God created? No, God is the first cause.  Well how is that possible?  It's possible because one of God's attributes is infinity (an infinite being) and infinity has no beginning and no end, therefore God is the first cause.

If god has been around for an 'infinity', then we would not be here as an infinite amount of time has not passed, nor ever will.

If god is placed 'outside' time, then our universe must be outside time as well.

If both are outside time, then there is no causality and everything just 'is'.

Without time god could not create the universe because there was no 'before there was a universe'.
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RE: Theists - how certain are you that a God exists? - by IATIA - August 1, 2015 at 10:20 am

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