RE: Theists - how certain are you that a God exists?
August 3, 2015 at 3:32 pm
(This post was last modified: August 3, 2015 at 3:49 pm by Redbeard The Pink.)
(August 3, 2015 at 11:19 am)ktrap Wrote: Spontaneous creation is a fluke just like spontaneous generation which was dispelled by Louis Pasteur in the 19 century. Therefore this whole notion of coming from nothing is not science but science fiction.
Spontaneous creation and spontaneous generation are not the same thing.
Spontaneous generation is a thoroughly debunked biological model from a few hundred years ago, and it doesn't state that something comes from nothing. It states animals can come from random things like pools of water, rotting meat, etc.
Spontaneous creation, as I'm using the phrase, is the idea that the whole universe used to be made up mostly/entirely of nothing, but some spontaneous event somehow brought a bunch of matter and energy out of that nothing.
That idea isn't as sci-fi as you might think. Modern physicists have learned that mixing matter with antimatter essentially makes nothing. Theoretically the same is possible in reverse, making it possible to get a whole universe from nothing.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com