(July 28, 2015 at 11:49 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: I have to disagree with you about thought crimes not being real things. They certainly are in America. That's why we have a whole book of things called "hate crimes" and "conspiracies". Heck, every conceivable act known to man has been is, or will be illegal somewhere in America. It's bad enough to do the actual deed but if they say you had some unapproved thoughts while committing the deeds they throw an additional punishment at you.
Conspiracy isn't exactly a thought crime, as it requires action. Are you maybe conflating it with pre-meditation? To conspire is to get together with others and plan something, is it not? For a group to plan, they have to communicate somehow, maybe even meet...the only way it would be thought crime is if telepathy were used as a means of communication.
Hate crime isn't exactly a thought crime either; while there is an element of intent involved, there generally has to be another crime involved. Hatred itself is not a crime, legally speaking.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com