(July 30, 2015 at 10:14 am)Drich Wrote:(July 29, 2015 at 1:59 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Humans definitely do not have thought crimes in the same sense that the Bible does. For that brand of thought crime, someone has to literally read your mind, and the thought itself is the primary crime.So thinking gay marriage is wrong, and refusing to facilitate a gay marriage because of your thoughts is not a punishable crime in your imaginary world?
With both hate crime and conspiracy, some kind of provable, outward action has to occur. Neither is an actual thought crime, at least not in the sense I'm using the term. No human can punish you for your actual thoughts unless you somehow make them known, and to my knowledge there is no secular law that punishes a thought and nothing else.
I posted a fox news link that says otherwise. That pastors are threatened with jail unless they concent to marrying gay people in certain states.
Well, in a way that does make sense. Churches don't pay taxes. This means they receive government relief. This means they are essentially a government service. Marriage is likewise, a government service. If churches want to refuse to marry gay people, they should start paying taxes and stop participating in the legal binding of marriage relationships (i.e. participate only in ceremony where the pastor has no legal power to officiate a legal union) .
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com