atheism and children

[Cephus]

On a side note, my wife and I are an infertile couple (well actually it's just me) and both of our children were conceived through IVF.

The teachings with regards to IVF of your beloved Church piss me off. If a Catholic ever suggests to me that my beautiful, amazing boys are the sinful byproduct of immoral and illicit acts, or that we are somehow a lesser family, I will punch them square in the nose.

This is just one of the many things about the Catholic Church that make me greatly appreciate Minimalist's sig.

*technically 4.92 yrs old, but we're already planning the birthday party, so I'm calling him 5.

Yeah, I don't think too many Catholics really give two shits what the church may say on the subject.  My wife is a Catholic, albeit extremely lukewarm, and we went through IVF twice.

Catholics can be strangely defiant about church doctrine yet still stubbornly refuse to part from the church.

American Catholics really couldn't care less about what the Vatican says, for the most part.  That's been the case for decades.