(April 27, 2010 at 1:16 pm)True Christian Wrote: It is not MY belief system. It is the belief system of the VAST majority of christians, and all kinds of theists all over the world. Religion, the way i and most theists live it, is not harmful. By reading those boards it would seem that creationism is an issue. its not. In the civilised world only the US have creationists. Creationism is not even considered as a possibility by the vast majority of christians.
You are still claiming membership in the “VAST majority” of the world, which is arrogant if nothing else. It is what YOU and most Christians YOU know believe. Leave it at that.
(April 27, 2010 at 1:16 pm)True Christian Wrote: The Pope is considered as authority by actually a rather small percentage of christians. We are not stupid, we see the wrongdoings of the Church. To me the Church is an organization based on the promotion and spread of Jesus' message, and it is only human, so yes it makes mistakes, but they are human mistakes.
The Pope’s authority only applies to the Catholic church, making this an unrelated issue.
(April 27, 2010 at 1:16 pm)True Christian Wrote: Now a little bit about Islam. Islam is NOT a violent religion. Evidence for this: since 9/11 there have been less than a dozen attacks on the "western" world by terrorist extremists. Compare that number to the HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of muslims in the world. Terrorists cant even be called a minority, because there are so very few of them.
That is evidence that the world’s efforts to stop them has met with a little success, nothing more. Islamic Extremists are the ones who committed the deed on 9-11. The extremists in any religion tend to be violent, but those in Islam take it to barbaric levels. There is nothing to blame that on other than their religion. That doesn’t mean that most Muslims are like that, but it doesn’t have to.
(April 27, 2010 at 1:16 pm)True Christian Wrote: Also before you say that as a christian i want all muslims to go to Hell. I dont. They believe in a false prophet, however they do believe in Jesus as a prophet. I hope Muslims that have the opportunity to learn can see the story of Christ and accept him as their Lord, but i dont condemn them to Hell for not doing so.
Sure you do. You want to convert them if possible, but those who are not ‘saved by Christ’ are doomed to hell. You may not want them to go to Hell, but you are telling them that they will.
(April 27, 2010 at 1:16 pm)True Christian Wrote: What you say about religious groups not being successful for 70 years, thats actually a good thing for religion. They dont give up and still try to help no matter what.
This is my point: the vast majority of religious people are harmless and their beliefs help them and others around them on an everyday basis. Religion is not that harmful. Religion helps me as a person. With the holy example of Christ i am shown a way to live peacefully and better the human race.
It’s true that most Christians strive to be good people (based upon my own experience). No one is disputing that. What you are missing is that it does not take religion to motivate someone to be a good person. Those moralistic values existed long before Christ (or even the OT) did.
(April 27, 2010 at 1:16 pm)True Christian Wrote: Don't hate religion, hate the few who abuse it.
I prefer to disparage the religion for perpetuating superstition and causing atrocities and discouraging inquiry (regardless of any good it may have also done), and not hate individuals without first judging them on their personal merits.