(May 3, 2010 at 4:44 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote:(May 2, 2010 at 5:14 pm)True Christian Wrote: You misinterpreted what i said: i dont mean that because a lot of people believe in it for a long time it is true. I mean that the fact that the Church has lasted 2000 years shows its godly origins.
Well then that IS what you're saying isn't it? Because you can't have godLY origins without God. If God doesn't exist then there is nothing 'godly' - the fact such 'origins' have existed means fuck-all because it isn't 'godly' at all it's just religious bullshit.
(May 2, 2010 at 6:29 pm)True Christian Wrote: Beliefs in Osiris, Buddhism and Judaism are not organizations. They are religions/philosophies. There is a difference: there has been a Pope for 2000 years without interruptions. The "headquarters" (Vatican) have stayed the same.
Organizations =/= Religions
Catholism is a religion too though.
And so fucking what to the above? The fact such an "organization" has existed so long has got absolutely nothing to do with the existence of God. Who cares?
And why are Judaism and Buddhism discounted on your little magic fallacious bullshit argument that makes no sense? They are religions/philosophies so they 'don't count'? Well either way it's not evidence and I have no idea how the fuck you cherry pick it so your bullshit argument that makes no sense applies to only the things you want it to! Compartmentalization much methinks.
Quote:However Darwinian i admit that that school you talked about has existed for longer than the Church. That's ONE
But the Church has existed and flourished for 2000 years, and doesnt seem to be losing too many adepts.
You're seriously commiting the NTS fallacy there. It doesn't count because the Church has flourished so much? So you are narrowing the definition of an organization that would apply to your bullshit argument some more are you? You asked for an organization, you got one, and it doesn't even matter anyway because the following is not evidence. You say:Quote:To me this shows that there is some kind of divinity to the Church.No it doesn't that's retarded. A Church existing for 2000 years and flourishing as it has=divinity? You're mad. If it had instead been a Flying Spaghetti Monster Church that had survived 2000 years and "flourished" would you count THAT as evidence of the divinity of the Flying Spaghetti Monster? If not then you're just narrowing your bullshit definitions down some more. Be clear please.
That does not follow logically at all in any way. No divinity can be given, nor can anything be given as evidence to the existence of God, merely because something is popular, widespread, long lasting, and has "flourished".
In 2000 years time if McDonald's is still popular will you declare Ronald McDonald (well, one of his descendants of course lol) as another pope? The Pope of the Big Mac?
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The fact is that outside of the Church, not a single religious organization, out of the thousands of religions, has lasted 2000 years. Why would Chrisianity be that different ? To me it is because it is the "true" religion.