Proving the Bible is false in few words.

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To those interested, i just tested the reasoning i explained in the OP, and it works ! i have managed to make a hardcore creationist admit that the Bible was at least partly written by men and that the Earth is not 6000 years old.

There is no such thing as a little victory right ?

You did? Kudos then!

I just explained that. These are Godly attributes... eminating from a perfect being. We're not attributing human virtues. Human virtues don't match up... they're half way up the scale.

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Its weird how you talk about virtues as if they were substances, when in reality they're properties. Goodness can't emanate from something any more than blueness or silliness can. And yes, I know its probably meant as a metaphor, but its misleading rather than informative.

A poor choice for a word, I'd grant you. But I think you got my point.

And you still haven't answered my earlier point, which is this:

We attribute goodness to people when they choose morally good courses of action, have good as opposed to bad intentions etc. If we had no choice but to make good decisions (if we really could not do otherwise), then would we really be good ourselves? I would say not- we'd just be ethical automatons.

God, as you describe him, is an ethical automaton.

You can't limit God to humanity. If God were a person, he would indeed be an automaton. What he is is the instigator of this reality.

Schmod isn't all powerful in his logical environment. God is.

Well, thats disputable, but I don't see the point in arguing about Schmod. Whats important is that you're now saying that god is all powerful in his logical environment. Since god's logical environment isn't isomorphic with the logical environment of the universe, you're therefore conceding that god is not all powerful within the universe. In other words, he isn't omnipotent.

Schmod can't be all powerful in his logical environment unless purple is logically non affect-able. In that case we're promoting him to God - who we already have a name for.

If God was only within the universe, and restricted to universal law, he wouldn't be omnipotent. But God isn't contained by the universe.

What you're proposing is that God should be able to act illogically. What we have in God is a proposition of something logical and positive. The opposite of that, and the root cause of theological consideration is the separation of confusion and illogic as negative and the opposite of God. The opposite is possible only if you don't logically separate the two in your construction of God.

Dark is nothingness. Light adds something to nothing. Light can't be dark, or nothing, only degrees of 'something'. This positive force cannot in itself produce dark.