(November 17, 2015 at 8:43 am)Brian37 Wrote:According to this site by September, 2015, the coalition forces had done over 6,000 air strikes, manned and unmanned, and dropped about 20,000 bombs on Syria. They have destroyed the country. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1084769/pg1(November 16, 2015 at 10:02 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: I think all of the crocodile tears over the Paris massacre is asinine. We are at war. We have been at war for decades. There are no innocent victims. Everyone is on one side or the other. We kill the enemy and destroy their countries. France has been bombing in Syria for a long time, contributing to the exodus into Europe. So when a handful of the enemy counter attack with their limited means and cause mayhem and havoc we start bleating like scared sheep.
This war is expected to last 100 years. People on both sides will die. Misery will touch everyone. Deal with it.
What the fuck? Skip the nationality, skip the race and religion issues. When a individual, or group of people get hurt, they have an emotional reaction to that assault. Nobody should call the act unique, but it is nuts to expect humans not to react to trauma.
Agreeing that humans can and do fight, agreeing that there is plenty of blame to go around does not make the theocratic oppressive ideas far too much of the East is held hostage by, better than the secular west. Nobody should claim the west is perfect either. But that is fucking absurd to say French have no right to be pissed. You fuck with my family I'd get pissed too. Anyone would.
I'd say whatever response we have should not involve the same xenophobia or mob rule mentality, but all sides are NOT equal on this.
"Shit happens" yea. Humans do this, yea. It is the downside of our species. But that doesn't mean humans cant our shouldn't have emotions in response to human cruelty.
Now this is war. People get killed and maimed. Stuff gets destroyed. But to expect people to endure such an onslaught and not to retaliate is asinine even if they are classified as terrorists.
I thought Assad made a mistake by not putting bounties on foreign fighters. Even so the majority of his troops have remained loyal and continue to fight against all of the foreign-funded and armed factions trying to overthrow him. That seems to be the major difference between the Syrians and the Iraqis, who give up and get shot in the head.
Now the war is expanding to Europe. Maybe they will be able to contain the damage but no one should expect to be exempt from pain and suffering. When people express remorse and stop fucking with people in other lands their tears will have more value. If someone drops 20,000 bombs on you would you be a nice guy?