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If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua?
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua?
(January 28, 2016 at 5:27 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 28, 2016 at 5:20 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote: Well after we die and leave this world we will all know the truth. Someone's gotta be right and someones gotta be wrong right? So again I say To you be your way if belief and to me be mine

Nope, when we die, thats it. It will feel exactly like it did before you were born, nothing, nadda, you simply don't exist anymore.

I am not that self centered to think I am that important to a 14 billion year old universe with 100s of billions of galaxies in it.  I value the one life I have now while I am alive. But the only thing that scares me about death is prolonged pain and my loved ones missing me after I die. 10 billion years from now our species will be long extinct, and even after that our sun will die and turn this planet into a piece of coal, and non of our human invented fantasies humans call gods will be remembered. God claims will die with our species when it goes extinct.

Now that does not make me fatalistic. I just means I don't gap fill with fictional utopias that don't exist. The ride ends for all life and the ride will end for our planet too. I simply value life as it is without superstition or sky heros.
There are some verses of the Qur'an I'd like to share with u. CH.56 verses 47-56... 47)For they used to say "What! When we die and become dust and bones shall we be raised up?"(48)We and our fathers of old?(49)Say" Indeed" People of times of old and people of later times.(50)All shall certainly be gathered together for the meeting appointed for a day well known.(51)Then indeed you who go astray(52)Surely you shall taste of the tree of Zaqqum.(53)Then you shall fill your insides therewith.(54)On top of that you shall drink scalding water.(55)Indeed you will drink like diseased camels raging with thirst.(56)Such will be their entertainment on the day of judgment.

(January 28, 2016 at 5:41 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(January 28, 2016 at 5:13 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote: Well first of all it's guidance from God. I know that's where our different opinions come in but... Secondly the different scientific, mathematical, linguistic and astronomical miracles in the Qur'an, a book revealed in the 7th century, when science and technology didn't yet exist, but with what we have today verifies that the author of the Qur'an, knew EXACTLY what they were talking about, when microscopes and X-ray machines, and telescopes and satellites hadn't been thought about let alone invented. So with all of these examples of miracles of the Qur'an that even show future events, could be nothing but the absolute truth, and this being who says He is the Creator of the universe has given me enough proof in this Qur'an the He is absolutely the Lord of the worlds.

Did you know about these miracles when you first began to believe in Allah or did knowledge of the miracles come later?
After I believed in Him. I studied and am studying more and more. And He gives in the Qur'an examples to increase the faith of believers, to give certainty to the people of the Book (Jews and Christians of old), and those who have diseases in their hearts will just shun it. If u like, my friend I'd be more than happy to share some of the miracles with u to get ur view on where they fall.
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RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 21, 2016 at 8:46 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 21, 2016 at 9:22 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 21, 2016 at 3:52 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 23, 2016 at 7:44 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 25, 2016 at 6:57 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 25, 2016 at 5:12 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 23, 2016 at 3:46 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by Sheed1980 - January 28, 2016 at 5:58 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 30, 2016 at 5:46 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 31, 2016 at 11:04 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 1, 2016 at 6:50 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 2, 2016 at 11:02 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 3, 2016 at 11:11 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 3, 2016 at 5:36 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 4, 2016 at 6:13 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 1, 2016 at 8:44 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 29, 2016 at 8:42 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 29, 2016 at 8:33 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 30, 2016 at 2:41 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 30, 2016 at 5:36 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 4, 2016 at 6:25 pm

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