(August 19, 2016 at 7:48 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: QFT!
And the reason we keep going around in circles with Road Runner is because every time he is presented with the challenge of meeting his burden of proof, he waffles back and says, "I'm not making any claims about Christianity, in this discussion I'm just talking about acceptable evidence." (wriggling) So, we never actually GET to the crux of the issue.
RR, bull CRAP you're not making any claims. Of course you are. You're a Christian on an atheist forum. That's exactly why you are here. To talk about the claims of Christianity that you believe are true. Trying to shirk your religious convictions in order to avoid the responsibility of providing evidence is dishonest. Period. And turning around and saying, "well, by YOUR standards you shouldn't believe in evolution," is not only a continuation of this shirking, it's:
I think that your clairvoyance is broken today... but go ahead, and keep straw manning what you believe I am thinking. Even when I say directly, you still tell me I'm wrong... I give up.
Quote:A: factually wrong
B: A tu quoque fallacy (and not even a good one because it's factually wrong as stated above)
C. A big fat argument from ignorance (that is also factually wrong because evolution is a scientific fact)
RR, this has nothing to do with epistemology and EVERYTHING to do with YOU shifting goal posts to avoid having to make a positive case for your religious beliefs.
TRY. AGAIN.
A. What is factually wrong
B. Please explain..... What do you think the argument is, that the tu quoque fallacy applies and how?
C. That's not the what the argument from ignorance is. (But perhaps we should start another thread, and we can list the facts about evolution).
Actually epistemology is about determining where the goal posts should be. Philosophically, it's not saying that the goal posts are not to be moved, but why they are moved.
From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts
Moving the goalposts (or shifting the goalposts) is a metaphor, derived from association football or other games, that means to change the criterion (goal) of a process or competition while still in progress, in such a way that the new goal offers one side an intentional advantage or disadvantage