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How to debate a Christian
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RE: How to debate a Christian
(August 15, 2010 at 10:28 pm)RAD Wrote:
(August 15, 2010 at 7:25 pm)LEDO Wrote: Apparently you have never read the Christian arguments. Either the entire Bible is true, or it is not. They claim if any part of it is false, then it is not a book of God.

I'm a Christian, and I would be committing the same logical fallacy you are if I depended solely on Genesis for any and all knowledge of the fall. You can't make a logical argument using a logically false premise. You have used a "genetic fallacy." But then if you want people to become atheists based on irrational reasoning like yours, go ahead. If half of Mark is true, you won't be going to heaven. Agreed?

Quote: If we assume the beginning is false, that there was no fall of man, then all of Christinaity is false because it is based entirely on the idea there was a fall and man needs to be saved. They also claim the entire Bible is geared towards man salvation and the coming of the messiah. Hence the whole Bible is false based on their logic, not Durant.

Even if Genesis is not true, there still could have been a fall. Here is a link to a "genetic fallacy." http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies...llacy.html

The Bible speaks of a fall elsewhere anyway

Quote:Unless you have read my books, don't be critical of them.

Since I am 99.9% sure they use your logic here, I'm safe in doing so.

That link proves nothing. The question is how to debate a Christian. Apparently you have never debated one and do not know what works. The Bible can speak of a fall in a thousand places, but there is only one that counts. Try reading the Bible.
"On Earth as it is in Heaven, the Cosmic Roots of the Bible" available on the Amazon.
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How to debate a Christian - by dreamer2008 - August 13, 2010 at 8:03 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Zen Badger - August 13, 2010 at 8:30 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by dreamer2008 - August 13, 2010 at 8:44 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by LastPoet - August 13, 2010 at 8:50 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by AnunZi - August 13, 2010 at 9:04 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Eilonnwy - August 13, 2010 at 9:46 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by dreamer2008 - August 13, 2010 at 10:12 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by RAD - August 15, 2010 at 2:24 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by The Omnissiunt One - August 15, 2010 at 5:09 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by LEDO - August 15, 2010 at 7:25 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by RAD - August 15, 2010 at 10:28 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by LEDO - August 16, 2010 at 6:40 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Peter44 - August 13, 2010 at 10:06 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by leo-rcc - August 13, 2010 at 5:04 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by lrh9 - August 13, 2010 at 7:48 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by padraic - August 13, 2010 at 8:19 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by superstarr - August 14, 2010 at 1:07 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by dreamer2008 - August 14, 2010 at 7:48 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by The Omnissiunt One - August 14, 2010 at 8:42 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by padraic - August 14, 2010 at 8:31 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Minimalist - August 14, 2010 at 8:36 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by LEDO - August 14, 2010 at 8:44 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Gooders1002 - March 25, 2012 at 9:28 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by RAD - August 15, 2010 at 3:13 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Zen Badger - August 15, 2010 at 5:10 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by dreamer2008 - August 15, 2010 at 6:25 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by The Omnissiunt One - August 15, 2010 at 6:35 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by LastPoet - August 15, 2010 at 1:47 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by LastPoet - August 15, 2010 at 3:41 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Minimalist - August 15, 2010 at 4:55 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Minimalist - August 15, 2010 at 5:23 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by solja247 - August 15, 2010 at 7:43 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by dreamer2008 - August 16, 2010 at 2:28 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by solja247 - August 16, 2010 at 5:02 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by padraic - August 16, 2010 at 6:09 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by RAD - August 16, 2010 at 11:01 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by The Omnissiunt One - August 16, 2010 at 4:26 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by The Omnissiunt One - August 16, 2010 at 8:46 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by padraic - August 16, 2010 at 8:56 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by RAD - August 17, 2010 at 1:06 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Edwardo Piet - August 17, 2010 at 5:30 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by LEDO - August 17, 2010 at 9:01 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by fr0d0 - August 16, 2010 at 8:51 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by tackattack - August 16, 2010 at 9:05 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Minimalist - August 16, 2010 at 10:16 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by everythingafter - August 16, 2010 at 1:57 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by tackattack - August 17, 2010 at 7:00 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Edwardo Piet - August 17, 2010 at 7:09 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by The Omnissiunt One - August 17, 2010 at 9:08 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Spencer - August 17, 2010 at 11:07 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by dreamer2008 - August 17, 2010 at 1:09 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by The Omnissiunt One - August 17, 2010 at 2:41 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Minimalist - August 17, 2010 at 1:35 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Minimalist - August 17, 2010 at 3:43 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by dreamer2008 - August 17, 2010 at 3:54 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Minimalist - August 17, 2010 at 4:20 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by solja247 - August 17, 2010 at 8:25 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by The Omnissiunt One - August 19, 2010 at 4:53 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by NoGodaloud ? - August 19, 2010 at 7:52 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Eilonnwy - August 19, 2010 at 10:18 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by NoGodaloud ? - August 19, 2010 at 11:28 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Minimalist - August 17, 2010 at 9:31 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by NoGodaloud ? - August 18, 2010 at 6:55 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Paul the Human - August 18, 2010 at 7:07 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by NoGodaloud ? - August 18, 2010 at 7:21 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Eilonnwy - August 18, 2010 at 7:29 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by NoGodaloud ? - August 19, 2010 at 3:12 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Eilonnwy - August 19, 2010 at 9:33 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by NoGodaloud ? - August 19, 2010 at 10:14 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Eilonnwy - August 19, 2010 at 10:50 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by NoGodaloud ? - August 20, 2010 at 12:31 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by HeyItsZeus - August 20, 2010 at 2:23 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Minimalist - August 19, 2010 at 3:52 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by NoGodaloud ? - August 19, 2010 at 4:23 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Minimalist - August 19, 2010 at 4:48 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by LastPoet - August 19, 2010 at 9:37 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by NoGodaloud ? - August 19, 2010 at 10:36 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by LastPoet - August 19, 2010 at 11:48 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by NoGodaloud ? - August 20, 2010 at 9:17 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by LastPoet - August 20, 2010 at 8:41 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by NoGodaloud ? - August 20, 2010 at 11:24 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by The Omnissiunt One - August 21, 2010 at 6:27 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by ABierman1986 - August 19, 2010 at 9:43 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by LastPoet - August 19, 2010 at 10:18 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by ABierman1986 - August 19, 2010 at 10:44 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Eilonnwy - August 19, 2010 at 11:36 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by ABierman1986 - August 20, 2010 at 12:57 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by solja247 - August 20, 2010 at 8:29 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Minimalist - August 20, 2010 at 11:56 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Tiberius - August 20, 2010 at 8:32 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2010 at 1:32 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Minimalist - August 20, 2010 at 1:59 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by William_Saskibar - August 20, 2010 at 11:15 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Minimalist - August 20, 2010 at 11:51 pm
RE: How to debate a Christian - by lrh9 - August 21, 2010 at 12:07 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by Super Cynic - August 27, 2010 at 5:56 am
RE: How to debate a Christian - by fr0d0 - August 27, 2010 at 7:41 pm
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