(August 26, 2010 at 3:24 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Gen 1:26 Let us make man in our image - hmm - one God but many
There are different interpretations behind Yahweh's curious use of the "royal we" in the early books of the OT. One is that it's a reference to the Trinity. However, the ancient Hebrews had no such concept and Yahweh's practice discontinued by the time of Isaiah (he uses the term "I" in referring to himself). A stronger explanation I believe is the idea that the ancient Hebrews were polytheistic. Indeed there are verses of the Bible that suggest there are multiple gods out there and that the ancient Hebrews were at least henotheistic. I have a video on that subject that reviews specific passages.
Quote:The vast majority of religions deal with forgiveness through sacrifice, I didn't say otherwise. What I said is that the God of mainstream Christianity is the evolutionary ultimate step having God doing the sacrifice.The problem here is that if Jesus is God, who is he sacrificing himself to? Himself? To convince himself to forgive us? If Yahweh wishes to forgive, why doesn't he simply do so instead of making himself bleed on a cross? If the sacrifice was a display of Jesus' love for humanity, I can think of better displays of love than having people whip him and crucify him.
Quote:In Islam it's still down to the person to earn their way to God.
Advantage: Islam.
A god that considers our ethics and morality to be the most important considerations of our character is more moral than a god who considers only what our metaphysical beliefs about a sacrifice on a cross were.
My problem with Islamic morality, like with any religious code of morality, is that it demonizes victimless crimes like blasphemy, idolatry and homosexuality while exalting useless activities like prayer or rituals.
Quote:Islam is Abrahamic in source but unlike Christianity, is internally inconsistent.So says the only religion in history that tries to be monotheistic and polytheistic at the same time. "We worship only one god... in three parts. The three are separate and yet part of the same god. One god and yet three at the same time."
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist