RE: Karma poll
December 14, 2016 at 10:00 am
(This post was last modified: December 14, 2016 at 10:01 am by Tonus.)
(December 14, 2016 at 8:24 am)Little Rik Wrote: Your system if I got it correct is that there is only one life and during this life whatever you build up is progress.It's not a system, it's simply the way things are.
Quote:My system on the other hand is that there is life after life until you reach the very top of human emancipation.And the other person's system is that you live one life in the flesh and then an eternity in heaven or hell, but heaven and hell mean different things depending on who you ask. And how you get there is different depending on who you ask. And who you meet there is different depending on who you ask. And what you will do for eternity is different depending on who you ask.
Do you know why it's so different for so many people? Because they have no way to determine which one is correct. At least a few of the people on this forum who believe in God have had experiences that make his existence either very likely or almost certain to them. Yet they don't share your view of the afterlife. Their evidence points in a direction away from your explanation of how things work. You cannot prove to them that you are right, and they cannot prove to you that they are right. Some of them may be concerned that you will spend an eternity suffering in hell, but I bet that you are not worried even a tiny bit. Because you have no way of convincing one another with actual evidence and logic.
The only thing you and they agree on is that God exists. That's it, really. Billions of people believe that, but the moment you try to add even a single belief they diverge. How can any of you claim anything about God aside from "he exists" as if you know for sure? How can you even claim it as a belief?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould