@ FallenToReason
No, two things and two things can't possibly be five things in ANY universe. For the same reason that there can be no square circles or ummarried batchelors in ANY universe. 2+2 doesn't equate to 4 because it's this universe... 2+2=4 is a tautology. Two things and two things are four things because two things and two things is THE SAME THING as four things.
What universe it is or what concept of logic we're talking about is completely irrelevant. 2+2=4 is a logical and mathematical absolute fact like The Law Of Identity is and it's not dependent even remotely on humans or their brains. If you disagree that 2+2=4 then you're not actually talking about 2+2 or 4. The truth of two things and two things being the same thing as four things is an absolute truth everywhere BECAUSE it's the same thing as saying two things and two things are two things and two things or four things are four things or A=A. It's the Law of Identity and there is no possible universe that can evade the Law of Identity, nothing can. It's a logical impossibility and logic is more than just a concept. Anything that contradicts the law of identity is a logical impossibility regardless of whether humans exist to conceptualize the Law of Identity.
Here's an example of why the Law of Identity can't possibly be defeated and why 2+2=4 in every possible universe:
If the law of identity was not true in any universe it would be not true in the universes that it wasn't true of and that itself is dependent on the law of identity. The truth of not A=not A is dependent on the truth of A=A. It's inescapable.
Here's an example of why the law of identity is not only true in all universes but is true even if humans don't exist to conceptualize it:
It is true by virtue of the law of identity that if humans didn't exist to conceptualize the law of identity they wouldn't exist to conceptualize the law of identity.
Whatever is, is. That is true regardless of what universe we are talking about regardless of if someone can conceptualize it.
No, two things and two things can't possibly be five things in ANY universe. For the same reason that there can be no square circles or ummarried batchelors in ANY universe. 2+2 doesn't equate to 4 because it's this universe... 2+2=4 is a tautology. Two things and two things are four things because two things and two things is THE SAME THING as four things.
What universe it is or what concept of logic we're talking about is completely irrelevant. 2+2=4 is a logical and mathematical absolute fact like The Law Of Identity is and it's not dependent even remotely on humans or their brains. If you disagree that 2+2=4 then you're not actually talking about 2+2 or 4. The truth of two things and two things being the same thing as four things is an absolute truth everywhere BECAUSE it's the same thing as saying two things and two things are two things and two things or four things are four things or A=A. It's the Law of Identity and there is no possible universe that can evade the Law of Identity, nothing can. It's a logical impossibility and logic is more than just a concept. Anything that contradicts the law of identity is a logical impossibility regardless of whether humans exist to conceptualize the Law of Identity.
Here's an example of why the Law of Identity can't possibly be defeated and why 2+2=4 in every possible universe:
If the law of identity was not true in any universe it would be not true in the universes that it wasn't true of and that itself is dependent on the law of identity. The truth of not A=not A is dependent on the truth of A=A. It's inescapable.
Here's an example of why the law of identity is not only true in all universes but is true even if humans don't exist to conceptualize it:
It is true by virtue of the law of identity that if humans didn't exist to conceptualize the law of identity they wouldn't exist to conceptualize the law of identity.
Whatever is, is. That is true regardless of what universe we are talking about regardless of if someone can conceptualize it.