(November 16, 2016 at 4:08 am)theologian Wrote:If I'm required to resort to rationale and abstractions to know something, I'm not going to have a personal relationship with it. I don't have a personal relationship with black holes or with quantum particles. They exist, and they may make up my entire existence, but there's nothing personal about it.(November 13, 2016 at 8:14 pm)bennyboy Wrote: If you need this many words to demonstrate the existence of an all-powerful, human-interested Creator God, you're doing it wrong.Because man uses his reason to know, that's why to know whether God exist, man uses His reason too, but in a very deep and important way, for the topic whether God exist is a matter of life. For if there is God, then knowing and loving Him can alone make us happy.
Why is it that the greatest entity who ever lived must be subjected to rationale and subtle semantics in order to "prove" he exists?
A God this subtle is irrelevant to our living of life. A God that mattered would actually. . . ya know. . . DO stuff. His existence would be undeniable. Therefore, you can pick your poison-- either God is nonexistent, or he is laughably useless. Make your choice.
If there IS a creator deity, and I have to turn over every stone and rationalize my way to a discovery of him, his importance is irrelevant-- there's nothing I personally need to do to make the black holes work, and there's nothing I personally need to do to accommodate such a grand being.
Quote:Indeed God does stuff. For, in Him we move, we live and have our being.Take out God and put in the Universe, and you have a sale. What you haven't demonstrated is that your God is a real thing that I need to spend time thinking about.