(December 11, 2016 at 1:16 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote:(December 11, 2016 at 10:42 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'm not sure what you mean, Taz. The vast majority of abortions are not done because the mom's life is in danger. And when it is, there are ethical ways of saving the mom and possibly the baby too, that don't involve abortion.
Because you conflate your insistence on imposing a blanket ban on all abortions as being pro-life. Remember you toe the rcc line of no abortions in any situation, not I.
Oh, and if we're going down the "vast majority" route, the vast majority of foetal implantations (i.e. when the fertilised foetus gets implanted in the womb) end in termination before viability naturally. And the vast majority of women who'd have a legal abortion under the current climate would have an illegal and highly dangerous abortion under the climate you wish to impose on us all (which gives lie to the idea of banning abortions isn't going to impact women's health).
Until you stop mendaciously conflating anti-abortion with pro-life I'm going to bring this point up every time. I'm more pro-life than you are.
What I'm saying is, abortion is simply not necessary to save the life of a mother. Medical treatment she might require if her life is in danger may cause unintentional harm/death to the baby (such as treating an ectopic pregnancy, or doing chemotherapy if she has cancer, or having to induce birth early. etc), but this is not the same as doing an abortion. I recently went through a situation that could have led to early induction of my son if my preeclampsia got out of hand, which would most likely have killed him because he was not old enough or strong enough to have survived outside of utero. But again, that would have been different from doing an abortion.
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