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This really got to me
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RE: This really got to me
(January 20, 2017 at 10:28 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(January 19, 2017 at 1:45 pm)Astonished Wrote: The jackassery is stomach-turning. Virtually every atheist has started out as a believer (against their will, in retrospect) and while the sincerity varied, they would all likely have begged in one form or another for such knowledge and relationships with their various deities du jour, and got not so much as a celestial fart in the face. Again, if there is a god that wants to communicate anything at all to any of us, he's doing the most inept imaginable job of it, and yet somehow believers want to take the blame for it and also cast it upon the rest of us (not unlike the dogshit sin concept, so they can reduce their own self-imposed guilt by spreading it to the rest of us who don't share that taint). Get a fucking clue.


There is a problem Ast.
Some people may well have the desire to know God but at the same time they also have the desire for something else and that make the whole thing unattainable.
Suppose you like a particular person and at the same time you also like a second person.
Don't you think that as the person that you like once knowing that you also like somebody else wouldn't
be upset with you?
God can read your mind and know very well what you are after so there is no chances that you can trick him.
If you are after idols (materialism) then you have no chances to know God even if you would like to know him.  


Quote:Karma is also a horseshit, utterly immoral concept with no basis in practical reality nor in actually reinforcing a good moral framework, it's nothing more than a dressed-up carrot and stick enticement and threat shtick with a pleasant-sounding name that makes people forget about the heaven-hell dichotomy. Fuck karma in its left ear.


Wrong again Ast.
Karma is a parallelism of the physical law that say.........for every action there got to be an equal and
opposite reaction.
What apply on earth also apply in the astral realty.  Lightbulb


Quote:As for god being removed from the equation by karma, let me ask you this: If you're selected to execute someone (or in this case, you've chosen to be that person), do you feel any guilt whatsoever or none at all? If there is a god in charge of karma and it feels no guilt for being the arbiter of this insane system, that is an unworthy agent to be participating in it. And if it does feel guilt, the system would become unbalanced and cease to function properly because of the bias it would have to form as a result of that compounded guilt. None of your petty ideas have even an ankle to stand on.


Wrong again Ast.
It doesn't work like this.
Nobody is chosen to be the executor.
The last thing that I would like to do would be to execute someone.
Executors would build a terrible karma for themselves.
Those who are bound to die because karma apply to them die not by executors but by different people who commit a crime.
In this way bad karma keep on affecting different people and people who have to experience punishment do not have to be killed necessary.
They may experience punishment in a myriad of different ways from getting sick to having all sort of accidents or being born with all sort of problems.  Lightbulb

The only way you're actually not utterly wrong is if all of these rules and such were communicated clearly and effectively and without a possibility of doubt from the very beginning. If your deity du jour doesn't at least meet that obligation, fuck that deity in its left ear and any of its rules can be shoved firmly up its ass. Besides which, you're forgetting that the matter of choice is not a factor in my executioner analogy, just as theists claim our ultimate fate (or the participation in the adventure of existence) was our choice - no it fucking wasn't. So if you were given no choice, you have to acknowledge the question and not tap-dance around it the way you've been trained to like a circus chimp, you coward.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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This really got to me - by Astonished - January 3, 2017 at 11:54 pm
RE: This really got to me - by robvalue - January 4, 2017 at 12:55 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 1:15 am
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 4, 2017 at 5:01 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 12:05 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 5, 2017 at 7:23 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 9, 2017 at 11:27 am
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 10, 2017 at 6:18 am
RE: This really got to me - by Minimalist - January 4, 2017 at 1:40 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 1:42 am
RE: This really got to me - by Minimalist - January 4, 2017 at 1:44 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 1:49 am
RE: This really got to me - by Godschild - January 4, 2017 at 2:04 am
RE: This really got to me - by chimp3 - January 4, 2017 at 6:34 am
RE: This really got to me - by Godschild - January 4, 2017 at 4:35 pm
RE: This really got to me - by 21stCenturyIconoclast - January 4, 2017 at 5:15 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Angrboda - January 4, 2017 at 7:18 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Godschild - January 5, 2017 at 12:54 am
RE: This really got to me - by chimp3 - January 6, 2017 at 8:07 am
RE: This really got to me - by Godschild - January 6, 2017 at 11:45 am
RE: This really got to me - by chimp3 - January 6, 2017 at 7:47 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 21, 2017 at 8:12 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 2:08 am
RE: This really got to me - by Drich - January 4, 2017 at 12:01 pm
RE: This really got to me - by 21stCenturyIconoclast - January 4, 2017 at 3:57 pm
RE: This really got to me - by TheoneandonlytrueGod - January 24, 2017 at 4:38 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Redoubtable - January 4, 2017 at 12:17 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 12:32 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Drich - January 4, 2017 at 5:42 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 6:24 pm
RE: This really got to me - by 21stCenturyIconoclast - January 5, 2017 at 5:13 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Godschild - January 6, 2017 at 2:37 am
RE: This really got to me - by Faith No More - January 4, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Godschild - January 4, 2017 at 6:24 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Cyberman - January 4, 2017 at 10:08 pm
This really got to me - by LadyForCamus - January 4, 2017 at 10:46 pm
RE: This really got to me - by chimp3 - January 10, 2017 at 6:31 am
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 11, 2017 at 10:21 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 18, 2017 at 1:20 am
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 18, 2017 at 9:55 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 19, 2017 at 1:45 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 20, 2017 at 10:28 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 23, 2017 at 9:33 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 24, 2017 at 9:33 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 27, 2017 at 1:39 am
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 27, 2017 at 4:17 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 27, 2017 at 11:59 am
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 28, 2017 at 10:33 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 28, 2017 at 11:19 am
RE: This really got to me - by Homeless Nutter - January 28, 2017 at 11:54 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 28, 2017 at 2:34 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 29, 2017 at 10:51 am
RE: This really got to me - by ignoramus - January 20, 2017 at 1:23 am
RE: This really got to me - by AceBoogie - January 20, 2017 at 11:11 am
RE: This really got to me - by The Wise Joker - January 29, 2017 at 4:37 pm

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