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This really got to me
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RE: This really got to me
(January 24, 2017 at 9:33 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(January 23, 2017 at 9:33 pm)Astonished Wrote: The only way you're actually not utterly wrong is if all of these rules and such were communicated clearly and effectively and without a possibility of doubt from the very beginning. If your deity du jour doesn't at least meet that obligation, fuck that deity in its left ear and any of its rules can be shoved firmly up its ass. Besides which, you're forgetting that the matter of choice is not a factor in my executioner analogy, just as theists claim our ultimate fate (or the participation in the adventure of existence) was our choice - no it fucking wasn't. So if you were given no choice, you have to acknowledge the question and not tap-dance around it the way you've been trained to like a circus chimp, you coward.


Calm down Ast with offensive language.
Nobody force you to believe anything.
We are both here in this forum to have a chat about things of interest.
Nothing to get angry about but let me say my point of view on some issues.

1) God doesn't have any obligation with anybody.
The game of creation is his game and nobody has the right to challenge that like it or not.
Suppose you dream about a tiger or anything else.
Do you think that that tiger got any right to interfere with your dream?
You can do what you like with your dream and that is fair.
The best way to deal with that if you are a tiger is to go back ASAP into the creator mind so you can be
the one in charge once again and not the object of a dream.

Humans can do this but it require to understand how the system works and by floating in the materialistic world that is very very difficult that is why a proper system to deal with that problem is needed.
By whining and getting angry as you do that is impossible.

2) Theists as well as atheists always claim a lot of things.
I am not responsible for what other theists may say.

Have a lovely day.  Worship

Of course, now you're going to back-pedal so it doesn't look like you ever said you had all the answers because you're so special. Or that it's our fault that god doesn't care to communicate with us. Even if the world is his dream as you state, if there is any desire to interact in any way with his dream and/or impose certain laws or require a level of devotion, that it would not be communicated effectively is a testament to how woefully bewilderingly stupid that god is, and no such being with a level of intellect far below that of its own creations (that in and of itself should really tell you something) could possibly concoct the design of the universe and its various physical attributes. If you're going to be reasonable and say that it is impossible for, if there is a deistic creator deity, anyone to possibly conceive of its motivations, desires or presence, I might actually say I respect you. But everything you've said so far makes you sound like a dishonest hypocrite and so unless you're really going to surprise me, I'm suspending judgment til I see it. There, no foul language and perfectly civil. Happy now? This doesn't have a tenth of the emotion I'm feeling talking to this brick wall you've erected around your sense of honesty and integrity.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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This really got to me - by Astonished - January 3, 2017 at 11:54 pm
RE: This really got to me - by robvalue - January 4, 2017 at 12:55 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 1:15 am
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 4, 2017 at 5:01 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 12:05 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 5, 2017 at 7:23 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 9, 2017 at 11:27 am
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 10, 2017 at 6:18 am
RE: This really got to me - by Minimalist - January 4, 2017 at 1:40 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 1:42 am
RE: This really got to me - by Minimalist - January 4, 2017 at 1:44 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 1:49 am
RE: This really got to me - by Godschild - January 4, 2017 at 2:04 am
RE: This really got to me - by chimp3 - January 4, 2017 at 6:34 am
RE: This really got to me - by Godschild - January 4, 2017 at 4:35 pm
RE: This really got to me - by 21stCenturyIconoclast - January 4, 2017 at 5:15 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Angrboda - January 4, 2017 at 7:18 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Godschild - January 5, 2017 at 12:54 am
RE: This really got to me - by chimp3 - January 6, 2017 at 8:07 am
RE: This really got to me - by Godschild - January 6, 2017 at 11:45 am
RE: This really got to me - by chimp3 - January 6, 2017 at 7:47 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 21, 2017 at 8:12 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 2:08 am
RE: This really got to me - by Drich - January 4, 2017 at 12:01 pm
RE: This really got to me - by 21stCenturyIconoclast - January 4, 2017 at 3:57 pm
RE: This really got to me - by TheoneandonlytrueGod - January 24, 2017 at 4:38 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Redoubtable - January 4, 2017 at 12:17 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 12:32 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Drich - January 4, 2017 at 5:42 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 6:24 pm
RE: This really got to me - by 21stCenturyIconoclast - January 5, 2017 at 5:13 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Godschild - January 6, 2017 at 2:37 am
RE: This really got to me - by Faith No More - January 4, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Godschild - January 4, 2017 at 6:24 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Cyberman - January 4, 2017 at 10:08 pm
This really got to me - by LadyForCamus - January 4, 2017 at 10:46 pm
RE: This really got to me - by chimp3 - January 10, 2017 at 6:31 am
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 11, 2017 at 10:21 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 18, 2017 at 1:20 am
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 18, 2017 at 9:55 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 19, 2017 at 1:45 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 20, 2017 at 10:28 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 23, 2017 at 9:33 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 24, 2017 at 9:33 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 27, 2017 at 1:39 am
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 27, 2017 at 4:17 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 27, 2017 at 11:59 am
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 28, 2017 at 10:33 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 28, 2017 at 11:19 am
RE: This really got to me - by Homeless Nutter - January 28, 2017 at 11:54 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 28, 2017 at 2:34 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 29, 2017 at 10:51 am
RE: This really got to me - by ignoramus - January 20, 2017 at 1:23 am
RE: This really got to me - by AceBoogie - January 20, 2017 at 11:11 am
RE: This really got to me - by The Wise Joker - January 29, 2017 at 4:37 pm

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