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Does the World Need Religion?
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RE: Does the World Need Religion?
(January 26, 2017 at 4:08 pm)phoenix31 Wrote:
(January 26, 2017 at 3:54 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote:

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Hello, Phoenix 31.  Would you say that it is more about people needing to think and feel a certain way that works for them and is meaningful for them rather than needing religion?  In other words, if people were to have a particular way of life/meaning-making (whether it be secular, non-secular, or whatever), one which helps them contribute to the world in a constructive and positive way, taken away from them, then would this cause those people to behave in a negative manner?

In addition, are people, who practice religion via peaceful and positive means, good/moral because of some objective component of religion or because these people are making religion meaningful in their own way?

Yeah I guess I would say people it's about needing to think and feel a certain way that is meaningful for them. I hadn't really thought about that outside of the terms of religion because to me, right now, morality doesn't make sense outside of religion. It's just my idea against your idea and whoever's strongest wins.

I don't know how to answer the second question.
Morality only makes sense outside of religion because there is no demonstration that any religion is actually true.  It's just a bunch of unsubstantiated claims made without evidence whatsoever.
There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide mankind that cannot be achieved as well or better through secular means.
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Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 10:53 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 10:57 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 11:05 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 11:16 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 11:51 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 12:00 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 12:15 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 12:32 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 12:37 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 12:39 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 12:51 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 12:59 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 1:07 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 1:10 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 1:19 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 1:23 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 1:33 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 1:39 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 1:46 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 1:49 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 1:55 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 1:57 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 2:08 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 2:11 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 25, 2017 at 11:04 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 12:33 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 12:36 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 12:45 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by TheoneandonlytrueGod - January 25, 2017 at 1:32 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by paulpablo - January 25, 2017 at 1:59 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 2:12 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 2:18 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cyberman - January 25, 2017 at 11:38 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Minimalist - January 25, 2017 at 11:42 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by vorlon13 - January 25, 2017 at 11:44 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 12:01 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 12:08 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Minimalist - January 25, 2017 at 11:55 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 12:19 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by vorlon13 - January 25, 2017 at 12:05 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Minimalist - January 25, 2017 at 12:06 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Minimalist - January 25, 2017 at 12:17 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cyberman - January 25, 2017 at 12:37 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cephus - January 25, 2017 at 1:12 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cyberman - January 25, 2017 at 1:37 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 1:43 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cyberman - January 25, 2017 at 2:56 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 3:03 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cyberman - January 25, 2017 at 4:33 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 4:47 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 4:54 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 5:07 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cephus - January 25, 2017 at 4:59 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 8:02 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cephus - January 26, 2017 at 2:15 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 1:45 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 2:38 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Asmodee - January 25, 2017 at 2:42 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Mr Greene - January 25, 2017 at 4:27 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Whateverist - January 25, 2017 at 4:59 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Minimalist - January 25, 2017 at 5:09 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Whateverist - January 25, 2017 at 5:17 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 5:31 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cyberman - January 25, 2017 at 5:14 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Mr Greene - January 26, 2017 at 9:36 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by brewer - January 25, 2017 at 6:27 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 6:40 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by The Grand Nudger - January 25, 2017 at 8:30 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Sterben - January 25, 2017 at 9:41 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Minimalist - January 25, 2017 at 9:57 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by dyresand - January 25, 2017 at 11:44 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Kernel Sohcahtoa - January 26, 2017 at 3:54 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 26, 2017 at 4:08 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cephus - January 26, 2017 at 4:57 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 26, 2017 at 5:18 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by brewer - January 26, 2017 at 10:00 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Lemonvariable72 - January 26, 2017 at 5:20 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Assimilate - January 26, 2017 at 5:21 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Whateverist - January 26, 2017 at 5:24 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Kernel Sohcahtoa - January 26, 2017 at 9:48 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 26, 2017 at 10:28 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Salty Science - January 26, 2017 at 9:50 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2017 at 3:34 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Sal - February 7, 2017 at 3:46 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2017 at 4:12 pm

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